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    Past prime AI.

    http://youtu.be/oaXZc5RXa9c

    Some good clips in here...

    http://youtu.be/X_9YJMaVrIo

    Cant believe I'm getting trolled by this loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerGlove
    Show me where Jordan's speed was even comparable to AI's. How bout that? This is ridiculous.
    Again, who me clips of Iverson getting from point A to point B in the halfcourt faster than Jordan in the clips I posted. Thanks and have a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalla44
    If Iverson's 40-yard dash is in 4.2-4.4 range (I dont know his 40 time) and MJ ran a 4.3, then its safe to say Iverson would be a hair faster than MJ at most.

    The difference is negligible. Find another argument troll.
    The difference is negligible in this completely made up bullshit scenario. What are you trying to prove? that you can say ridiculous shit too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerGlove
    Past prime AI.

    http://youtu.be/oaXZc5RXa9c

    Some good clips in here...

    http://youtu.be/X_9YJMaVrIo

    Cant believe I'm getting trolled by this loser.
    Yawn. Another open court/fastbreak play, and without the ball at that. Find me clips of Iverson getting from 25-30+ feet out to the basket IN THE HALFCOURT faster than Jordan in the clips I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerGlove
    The difference is negligible in this completely made up bullshit scenario. What are you trying to prove? that you can say ridiculous shit too?
    How is this bull? You cannot prove one or another is faster on the basketball court therefore you must take the most scientific sample available. Their 40 yard dash times have been recorded therefore that's our only way of measuring their speed. Comprende???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalla44
    How is this bull? You cannot prove one or another is faster on the basketball court therefore you must take the most scientific sample available. Their 40 yard dash times have been recorded therefore that's our only way of measuring their speed. Comprende???
    You are stupid. No one is going to use 40 yard dash times to determine who's faster on the BASKETBALL COURT. Go play some sports or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerGlove
    You are stupid. No one is going to use 40 yard dash times to determine who's faster on the BASKETBALL COURT. Go play some sports or something.
    OP was talking about who's faster from point A to point B. That's pretty much asking who's the fastest. No one is asking who's the quickest basketball player. 40-yard dash is similar in that you can mathematically predict their speed in proportion to the basketball court. Its wont say the whole the truth but its much more valid way of measuring speed rather than judging with your eyes.
    Reading comprehension and logical deduction are your friends. Quit trying to redefine what was asked.

    EDIT: Looks like I need to work on my reading comprehension. lol. Powerglove is still a p.hag though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalla44
    You are a moron. OP was talking about who's faster from point A to point B. That's pretty much asking who's the fastest. You are not very bright. No one is asking who's the quickest basketball player.

    Reading comprehension and logical deduction are your friends. Quit trying to redefine what was asked.
    SMH.

    He said that Jordan was the fastest point A to B player in *drumroll* HALFCOURT!!!!!!

    You know...like half of a basketball court. Do you get it now?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    I want to talk about point A to point B speed in the halfcourt. This is distinct from open court speed, or from quickness in changing direction, and even distinct from acceleration/first step (though point A-point B speed is aided by acceleration/first step).

    Despite there being tons of super-fast players in the halfcourt over the years, I submit that Michael Jordan is the fastest point A to point B player in the halfcourt in history, both from a standstill and while already in motion. Jordan could get from 20-30+ feet out to a dunk or a layup faster than anyone - that is, he covered ground in the halfcourt faster than anyone in history. Some evidence:

    An endless number of such plays could be provided. Again, this is not about quickness (i.e., changing directions or changing of speeds), but about pure point A to point B speed covering ground in the halfcourt. And I don't believe that anyone has ever gotten from 23-35+ feet out to the basket faster than Jordan in the halfcourt.

    Honorable mentions go to DRose, Drexler, Iverson, and Dr. J.
    Its clear as day you are wrong.

    @ your pretentious display of idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    None of those players get from point A to point B in the halfcourt as fast as Jordan. They may accelerate faster, but MJ's combination of acceleration and stride length/size is unmatched, and that's what gives him the edge. Of the guys you listed, only DRose and AI even compare. Marbury had INSANE acceleration, but was too small to match MJ in point A to point B speed. DRose is actually the closest imo, better than even Iverson in terms of covering ground quickly in the halfcourt.

    Guys like Van Exel and Baron Davis shouldn't even be mentioned - they're not in the same universe.
    I've watched pretty much every game Rose has played and there's no doubt in my mind his speed in the half-court is a level above. Same goes for peak Wade. I have a couple of plays Rose plays for now, I'll post more when I get free later:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHhkL2NdOY&t=1m32s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D54U63ldVcQ&t=2m24s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian guy
    I've watched pretty much every game Rose has played and there's no doubt in my mind his speed in the half-court is a level above. Same goes for peak Wade. I have a couple of plays Rose plays for now, I'll post more when I get free later:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSHhkL2NdOY&t=1m32s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D54U63ldVcQ&t=2m24s
    this, rose is on another level in terms of speed, his spin move is almost as quick as jordans first step

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOSp7xF2rJs

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    James can get from the 3pnt line to the hoop as fast as anyone in the NBA. Don't get it twisted.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAF8zTq7XA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyKv5UznxU
    Last edited by bdreason; 07-28-2011 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    Yawn. Another open court/fastbreak play, and without the ball at that. Find me clips of Iverson getting from 25-30+ feet out to the basket IN THE HALFCOURT faster than Jordan in the clips I posted.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-SW60AmNh0
    3:32

    actually u should watch from 2;30 to 3;30 but the play im looking at specifically is the one where he blows by kidd. ai>rose,wade and mj.

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    The only people who can compete with MJ in terms of speed and quickness in the half court off the dribble is Derrick Rose, and Allen Iverson. That should tell you something too. Both are PG's. One is 5'11 and the other is 6'1. MJ did this @ 6'5.

    So you take comprable speed and quickness and put it on a frame that is significantly longer than both of them, and you have the FASTEST point A to Point B player in the league history. In the half court or full court set. Only player in full court I can think of that is comprable is Dr. J or LeBron from 2004 - 2010.

    I remember reading about teams testing MJ's 40 yard dash time, and it was on the level of modern super athletes in the NFL. The Mike Vicks of the world, etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkRzE8oroMs

    Just watch these plays where Jordan recovers from significant distances to make plays ont he ball.

    Look @ that play v.s. New York in game 7. Where he starts off from to where he catches up with the IN BOUND pass.



    Then look at the recovery in the open court to get IN FRONT of Xavier McDaniel to swipe the ball.



    But let's not just talk about point A to point B in terms of moving vertically.

    MJ was one of the fastest players of all-time LATERALLY. That's why he was such an insane defender. I mean, Scottie Pippen had 3 - 4 inches on MJ in height, and a signicantly longer reach ... MJ flustered players more with his ridiculous foot speed than with his length. And if you don't believe me, watch some tape. He was incredible at bouncing side to side with anticipation and speed, moving his feet laterally.

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    I'm not claiming James is as quick as Jordan was, but if we're posting chase down blocks, check out LeBron chase down Monta Ellis... twice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HeKnaqn4fA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpSUQhsGg6c




    As a Warriors fan, these were painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdreason
    As a Warriors fan, these were painful.
    I knew you had to be a Warrior "super fan" the way you were arguing for Monta Ellis overrated ass the other day. And claiming Stephen Curry was already an All Star PG.


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