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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by juju151111
Mj was the best player the whole year. David had his opportunities to lead his team to at least the finals in 93 and 95 but got raped by Barkley and Hakeem.
93 and 95 arent being discussed here, as i dont have robinson as the best player in either of those seasons.
1993-95 was hakeem's league
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The GOATS
Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Garbage. I don't care what any stats say. No one in the world was a better player than Shawn Kemp in 96, including Jordan.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
we should just do away with the DPOY
it's as if no one cares about that award.
or how is that even calculated?
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
93 and 95 arent being discussed here, as i dont have robinson as the best player in either of those seasons.
1993-95 was hakeem's league
He had similar stats in 95. He still wasn't doing much.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by juju151111
He had similar stats in 95. He still wasn't doing much.
similar stats =/= same impact
forget that hakeem, barkley, drexler and ewing all had down seasons - robinson had to do more for THIS spurs team, as they missed 3 quarters of their bench that year due to injuries. obviously this makes sense because if we look at the "fake" RAPM for 1996, robinson is head and shoulders above everyone else that season.
of course, his PER was still atop of the league along with his defensive rating.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
similar stats =/= same impact
forget that hakeem, barkley, drexler and ewing all had down seasons - robinson had to do more for THIS spurs team, as they missed 3 quarters of their bench that year due to injuries. obviously this makes sense because if we look at the "fake" RAPM for 1996, robinson is head and shoulders above everyone else that season.
of course, his PER was still atop of the league and was his defensive rating.
Same crap in 95 his mvp season. He did the same shit. Go look at his stats and ratings.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by juju151111
Same crap in 95 his mvp season. He did the same shit. Go look at his stats and ratings.
once again, same stats don't account for impact to said season. too many variables, specifically injuries and roster changes.
and once again, i have hakeem as the best player in 1995. yes, he did embarrass robinson, something i pointed out in my 1993 thread when that year and matchup was also brought up.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Did anyone doubt given the OP's history plus his 1993 best player thread that he wouldn't have Jordan as the best player in any of his "player of the year" threads? It was so obvious.
1996 was EASILY Jordan's year. Had the best numbers (top 2 minimum), superb defense, and put those numbers up on a record-setting team while playing championship level team ball. LOL @ OP's agenda with these threads.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
once again, same stats don't account for impact to said season. too many variables, specifically injuries and roster changes.
and once again, i have hakeem as the best player in 1995. yes, he did embarrass robinson, something i pointed out in my 1993 thread when that year and matchup was also brought up.
Same impact too. He wasn't doing much and especially playoffs time. He choked like always.
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NBA Legend
Re: 1996 MVP and best player
I could see the case being made for D-Rob if we're talking about MVP. Best player, not sure. Jordan was Jordan all season, capping his year off with a chip and Finals MVP for good measure.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Robinson was not even close to Jordan in 1996. I mean, wow. Jordan was on a mission and ended up owning the league. This is not even as close as Lebron/KD was in 2012 - that was a much closer comparison.
EDIT: And I dont care who said what, but the notion that Pippen was close to Jordan in 1996 is even more farcical.
Last edited by OldSchoolBBall; 01-08-2015 at 03:22 PM.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Did anyone doubt given the OP's history plus his 1993 best player thread that he wouldn't have Jordan as the best player in any of his "player of the year" threads? It was so obvious.
1996 was EASILY Jordan's year. Had the best numbers (top 2 minimum), superb defense, and put those numbers up on a record-setting team while playing championship level team ball. LOL @ OP's agenda with these threads.
I'm not even taking him serious. He a joke at this point.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by juju151111
Same impact too. He wasn't doing much and especially playoffs time. He choked like always.
30/12/4 against the suns before hurting his back versus UTAH AND being limited with foul trouble? and for the last time, his impact was NOT the same as stats show. i'm not interested in bringing up other seasons, so this will be my last post addressing you.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
30/12/4 against the suns before hurting his back versus UTAH AND being limited with foul trouble? and for the last time, his impact was NOT the same as stats show. i'm not interested in bringing up other seasons, so this will be my last post addressing you.
Like I said he choked in the playoffs THAT year.
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Re: 1996 MVP and best player
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Robinson was not even close to Jordan in 1996. I mean, wow. Jordan was on a mission and ended up owning the league. This is not even as close as Lebron/KD was in 2012 - that was a much closer comparison.
EDIT: And I dont care who said what, but the notion that Pippen was close to Jordan in 1996 is even more farcical.
stats suggest robinson and jordan were in fact VERY close. i dont mind that you have jordan "better", but to say it isn't close? delusional.
top 5 in more MAJOR statistical categories, higher PER (has the tiebreaker) along with a slight worse RAPM to jordan (also played in a MUCH TOUGHER, top heavy conference).
the fact THAT jordan himself said pippen could be argued as the better/best player (when healthy) makes everything you just posted non sequitur.
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