Difference between past superstars and new age superstars...

[tgan3]

New Age:
Lebron- loses in the Finals (2 wins out of past 4 appearances) and wants to change team.

Past:
Iverson- 10 years with the sixers (Before changing teams when he was declining with no rings)
Manu/Parker/Duncan- 12, 13 and 17 years respectively with the Spurs.
Paul Pierce- 15 years with Celtics
Kobe Bryant- 18 years with the Lakers

[SouBeachTalents]

New Age:
Lebron- loses in the Finals (2 wins out of past 4 appearances) and wants to change team.

Past:
Iverson- 10 years with the sixers (Before changing teams when he was declining with no rings)
Manu/Parker/Duncan- 12, 13 and 17 years respectively with the Spurs.
Paul Pierce- 15 years with Celtics
Kobe Bryant- 18 years with the Lakers

I'll give props to those two, but give me one good reason why any of the Spurs Big 3 would want to switch teams? Same with Kobe after having Shaq and Gasol most of his career

[StephHamann]

it happened before

[ralph_i_el]

Big 3 came to Peirce and he's going to his 3rd team probably. AI didn't give a **** about politics and chips. He balled outrageous 24/7 on the hardwood and off

[bagelred]

Shaq and Barkley
it happened before

Those are some bad examples.

Shaq went from Magic to Lakers because of the allure of Los Angeles, not to ring chase.
He was TRADED to the Miami Heat because Lakers chose Kobe instead of Shaq.
He was TRADED to Suns because Kerr was trying to make Suns tougher.
After that, Shaq was basically washed up...so....those last couple years mean nothing....

Barkley was dissatisfied with 76ers and there were internal problems, so he went to the Suns...which had no superstar by the way.
By the time he went to Rockets, he was clearly on downslope of his career, as was Pippen, and Olajuwon...

So...try again....

[Nuff Said]

First off you cherry picked stars as if no star has changed teams before. Second, I think it's more that people have learned from the past. Barkley and Malone are constantly ridiculed as just not having what it takes to win it all even if it wasn't their fault. Lebron and co do not want to go down in the same fashion.

[GimmeThat]

Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka/Harden made 1 finals appearance than got rid of Harden

Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen made 4 straight finals appearance and won two. you'r telling me Riley can't rebuild the team right back to contender mode next year?

[Beastmode88]

Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka/Harden made 1 finals appearance than got rid of Harden

Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen made 4 straight finals appearance and won two. you'r telling me Riley can't rebuild the team right back to contender mode next year?

Okc cheap as fcuk. Lebron jumping ship asap after 1 loss.

[GimmeThat]

Okc cheap as fcuk. Lebron jumping ship asap after 1 loss.

lets not act as if the Heat isn't going through one of the biggest FA rebuild year as their own.

it's not as if all the players from last year are still under contract and he is the one leaving.

[CoastalRyan]

There is certainly a sense of entitlement with some of the younger generations that undoubtedly carries over into the NBA at times. There is less of an emphasis on loyalty and traditional team building/developing of rosters by the front office through a core team vs. the players trying to fabricate teams by coercion.

That trend is certainly a result of today's times. Players are socially connected in ways they never were before and what was once viewed as an on court rivalry is now a twitter friendship.

Hopefully at some point this generation better defines themselves by stronger team play than the latest individual media outburst.

[GimmeThat]

There is certainly a sense of entitlement with some of the younger generations that undoubtedly carries over into the NBA at times. There is less of an emphasis on loyalty and traditional team building/developing of rosters by the front office through a core team vs. the players trying to fabricate teams by coercion.

That trend is certainly a result of today's times. Players are socially connected in ways they never were before and what was once viewed as an on court rivalry is now a twitter friendship.

Hopefully at some point this generation better defines themselves by stronger team play than the latest individual media outburst.

If you build a team that players wants to play with. You'll see players playing.

[sdot_thadon]

Probably the biggest difference is this generation has hindsight of last generation. They see how all those guys careers ended and how they have been perceived since by history, by media, by Internet idiots. Even with that you have the same groups: those after money, those after glory and a few after both.

[GimmeThat]

Probably the biggest difference is this generation has hindsight of last generation. They see how all those guys careers ended and how they have been perceived since by history, by media, by Internet idiots. Even with that you have the same groups: those after money, those after glory and a few after both.

something tells me that if you limit the money available. you get more people after glory.

generations.

[sdot_thadon]

something tells me that if you limit the money available. you get more people after glory.

generations.

You might be right. These ridiculous contracts cropped up after Mj's last bulls run and sort of mucked things up for a couple of decades almost. Had too many guys making more than they needed to...

[3ball]

Today's players get to enjoy spacing while previous eras did not, and shot mostly two pointers.