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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by jstern
    It was an overreaction, but the NBA was publicly trying to make it easier for perimeter players to score. And the numbers show that. Else why would so many guards have career years after hand checking was taken. Teams hardly use zone, and it's not a real zone.
    if i remember, most players had great spike for one or 2 season in 2005, 2006 and then refs got used to the rules which brought back down the individual scoring.

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    Are you responding to my point as to why Jordan is better than Bryant? Cuz if so please. Lets address it
    No to the post above me

    Jordan is better than Kobe

    More athletic
    Bigger hands
    More disciplined

    Only thing Kobe has over him is perhaps shooting just a little, and craftiness, which although is good, doesn't mean he was a better scorer or post player. Just that he could pull off remarkable feats that would be considered low IQ basketball, which connects to the discipline aspect and how Jordan would play more within the realms of his team.

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
    That's a terrible point

    Efficiency, how someone scores, and relative to team success needs to be addressed.
    Mj was leading his team to a winning record in 02 and his 2nd best player rip Hamilton missed most of the start of the season. They're defense declined along with the whole team because MJ got injured. Mj was the only player along with tmac averaging those numbers on the perimeter before he got injured. Basically your new era defense didn't do anything.

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...mendations-nba

    Well, that settles that. Don't even try donald. Michael said it himself. It's over.



    Zone defense rarely used because it only help to stop the star player(not entirely able to stop quick player like wade, westbrook or rose) but can't win the game. Plus MJ probably humble speaking lol.

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Poetry
    3 days later, at nearly 39 years of age, Jordan drops 51 on this same team.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-0ghhY7uw

    Zone defense
    hes the goat

    this doesnt negate what he said himself

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Showtime80'
    Natural evolution my a!! Check out the top 10 MVP voting from 1987 or 88 and compare them to today and the 80's blows today's bums out of the water!
    Look at the top 10 teams as well, where's the evolution because I sure as hell don't see it. Last years Cavs and Hawks would've been 7th or 8th seeds back in 1988!!!

    People forget that Kobe actually played in the so called "ultra easy illegal defense era" from 1996 to 2001 and guess what, he averaged 18 ppg on 46% FG playing basically one on one basketball thanks to having the most dominant center in the history of the league in his prime!!! Why couldn't Kobe at least by his third year even approach Jordan's efficiency?!?

    Kobe would've NEVER been as efficient as Mike, not in the 1950's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2000's! Not happening.

    Steve frigging Nash, a guy that would've barely been a top 20 player back in the 80's won two MVP's in this so called "uber athletic zone era". Now that is pathetic!

    Solid fundamentals, basic skills and hog IQ will beat superior athleticism EVERY time and the 80's generation of players had those thing ten fold when compared to the inefficient athletic nuckle heads you have now,

    Today's player are not as efficient to those of the past because frankly their just not as good! That's what putting a prime on athleticism over everything else gets you
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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Dro
    Honestly, I could give a damn what MJ said either way. Anybody's who's actually played ball on some competitive level whether it be high school, college or whatever, knows that a great player will shred a zone any day if the zone is played all day and his teammates have any clue about how to be in the right position. In college, yeah a zone might work the entire game but in the pros? LOL. Yeah ok.
    nobody is debating about defending lebron with a full on 2-3 zone, the debate is about using zone principles

    loading up on the strong side of the court to send an extra defender at a scorer.

    its using zone defensive principles, but closer to man-to-man than zone defense.

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    1998 Jordan would get shutdown by the 2020 Miami Heat Zone defense just like what they did to Tatum and Giannis unless Jordan improves his 3 points range, and passing.

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did.
    Issa wrap bois


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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    1998 Jordan would get shutdown by the 2020 Miami Heat Zone defense just like what they did to Tatum and Giannis unless Jordan improves his 3 points range, and passing.
    Really?

    Has anyone been able to overcome that zone defense?

    Surely someone must have been able to

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn View Post
    Really?

    Has anyone been able to overcome that zone defense?

    Surely someone must have been able to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    1998 Jordan would get shutdown by the 2020 Miami Heat Zone defense just like what they did to Tatum and Giannis unless Jordan improves his 3 points range, and passing.
    Bumping a 5 year old thread.

    Dudes been retired nearly 20 years and still lives rent free in your pathetic little head.

    You live a miserable life

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by West-Side View Post
    This might be the greatest ether this forum has ever seen.
    Holy shit.





    issa wrap

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    Default Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Zone busters

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