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College superstar
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by jstern
It was an overreaction, but the NBA was publicly trying to make it easier for perimeter players to score. And the numbers show that. Else why would so many guards have career years after hand checking was taken. Teams hardly use zone, and it's not a real zone.
if i remember, most players had great spike for one or 2 season in 2005, 2006 and then refs got used to the rules which brought back down the individual scoring.
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Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by 97 bulls
Are you responding to my point as to why Jordan is better than Bryant? Cuz if so please. Lets address it
No to the post above me
Jordan is better than Kobe
More athletic
Bigger hands
More disciplined
Only thing Kobe has over him is perhaps shooting just a little, and craftiness, which although is good, doesn't mean he was a better scorer or post player. Just that he could pull off remarkable feats that would be considered low IQ basketball, which connects to the discipline aspect and how Jordan would play more within the realms of his team.
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Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
That's a terrible point
Efficiency, how someone scores, and relative to team success needs to be addressed.
Mj was leading his team to a winning record in 02 and his 2nd best player rip Hamilton missed most of the start of the season. They're defense declined along with the whole team because MJ got injured. Mj was the only player along with tmac averaging those numbers on the perimeter before he got injured. Basically your new era defense didn't do anything.
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NBA Superstar
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
Zone defense rarely used because it only help to stop the star player(not entirely able to stop quick player like wade, westbrook or rose) but can't win the game. Plus MJ probably humble speaking lol.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by Poetry
hes the goat
this doesnt negate what he said himself
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by Showtime80'
Natural evolution my a!! Check out the top 10 MVP voting from 1987 or 88 and compare them to today and the 80's blows today's bums out of the water!
Look at the top 10 teams as well, where's the evolution because I sure as hell don't see it. Last years Cavs and Hawks would've been 7th or 8th seeds back in 1988!!!
People forget that Kobe actually played in the so called "ultra easy illegal defense era" from 1996 to 2001 and guess what, he averaged 18 ppg on 46% FG playing basically one on one basketball thanks to having the most dominant center in the history of the league in his prime!!! Why couldn't Kobe at least by his third year even approach Jordan's efficiency?!?
Kobe would've NEVER been as efficient as Mike, not in the 1950's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2000's! Not happening.
Steve frigging Nash, a guy that would've barely been a top 20 player back in the 80's won two MVP's in this so called "uber athletic zone era". Now that is pathetic!
Solid fundamentals, basic skills and hog IQ will beat superior athleticism EVERY time and the 80's generation of players had those thing ten fold when compared to the inefficient athletic nuckle heads you have now,
Today's player are not as efficient to those of the past because frankly their just not as good! That's what putting a prime on athleticism over everything else gets you
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Very good NBA starter
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by Dro
Honestly, I could give a damn what MJ said either way. Anybody's who's actually played ball on some competitive level whether it be high school, college or whatever, knows that a great player will shred a zone any day if the zone is played all day and his teammates have any clue about how to be in the right position. In college, yeah a zone might work the entire game but in the pros? LOL. Yeah ok.
nobody is debating about defending lebron with a full on 2-3 zone, the debate is about using zone principles
loading up on the strong side of the court to send an extra defender at a scorer.
its using zone defensive principles, but closer to man-to-man than zone defense.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
1998 Jordan would get shutdown by the 2020 Miami Heat Zone defense just like what they did to Tatum and Giannis unless Jordan improves his 3 points range, and passing.
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10-07-2020, 09:52 PM
#100
The Puppeteer
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did.
Issa wrap bois
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10-07-2020, 09:53 PM
#101
The Puppeteer
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by Lebron23
1998 Jordan would get shutdown by the 2020 Miami Heat Zone defense just like what they did to Tatum and Giannis unless Jordan improves his 3 points range, and passing.
Really?
Has anyone been able to overcome that zone defense?
Surely someone must have been able to
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10-07-2020, 09:54 PM
#102
ISH jizzrag slayer
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
Really?
Has anyone been able to overcome that zone defense?
Surely someone must have been able to
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10-07-2020, 10:13 PM
#103
RENT FREE
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by Lebron23
1998 Jordan would get shutdown by the 2020 Miami Heat Zone defense just like what they did to Tatum and Giannis unless Jordan improves his 3 points range, and passing.
Bumping a 5 year old thread.
Dudes been retired nearly 20 years and still lives rent free in your pathetic little head.
You live a miserable life
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10-07-2020, 10:15 PM
#104
9x All Defensive 1st
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by West-Side
issa wrap
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10-07-2020, 10:30 PM
#105
2nd Greatest Player
Re: 2001 - Jordan admits he benefited from Illegal Defense Rules
Originally Posted by Axe
Zone busters
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