Raptors exposed without Kawhi

[HBK_Kliq_2]

3-8 playoff record from 2018-2020 when playing past the 1st round.

- 4th quarter meltdowns

- Siakam playing like a role player

- Gasol can barely run

Bunch of chokers, washed up, overrated sack of shits.

[And1AllDay]

You poached away Kawhi and Danny Green what did you expect i mean ya know, Kawhi has to have some impact right

[NBAGOAT]

gasol just aged. that has nothing to with kawhi

[Wally450]

Team loses superstar, team regresses. Astonishing news there.

How is losing in the final seconds of a game 7 being exposed.

[Stanley Kobrick]

to be fair 2019 Raptors were one shot away from being sent home by the Sixers last year. that game 7 reminded me a lot like this game tonight

[red1]

OP suck my nuts fakkit - I was waiting for this from you


kawhi has never won shit without a ton of help.


I have a feeling he might miss ibaka when he watches AD push harrell and zubac's shit in just a few days

[light]

The Raptors made it to game 7 in the 2nd round without Kawhi.

Didnt they do the same thing last year with Kawhi? Except they won that game 7.

That means Kawhi only lifted the Raptors 4 or 5 places, which is not that big of a boost relative to what others superstars have done.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You poached away Kawhi and Danny Green what did you expect i mean ya know, Kawhi has to have some impact right

Green's shooting made them worse, Fred van vleet averaged 2PPG in 2nd round, they also added OG. Still suck ass.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

The Raptors made it to game 7 in the 2nd round without Kawhi.

Didnt they do the same thing last year with Kawhi? Except they won that game 7.

That means Kawhi only lifted the Raptors 4 or 5 places, which is not that big of a boost relative to what others superstars have done.

They actually won the game 7 though. If you lose it, that's not the same thing as winning. Damn boy everybody know that.

[Roundball_Rock]

to be fair 2019 Raptors were one shot away from being sent home by the Sixers last year. that game 7 reminded me a lot like this game tonight

Yup. Differences in playoff series often are subtle given the small sample sizes. Yet you know we will forever hear they went from champs to losing in the second round when the actual shift in performance was basically one shot going the other way.

After losing the best player in the world the Raptors were in the series and game 7 to the very end. If Lowry doesn't get fouled out and he is taking that shot instead of the ridiculous FVV possession they could have been en route to the finals. Not exactly Miami after LeBron or even OKC after KD (or to be fair, San Antonio without Kawhi).

[red1]

raptors without kawhi - 50+win team and a 50+win percentage and second round playoffs every year



thats the definition of a good supporting cast

[HBK_Kliq_2]

to be fair 2019 Raptors were one shot away from being sent home by the Sixers last year. that game 7 reminded me a lot like this game tonight

16 points in the 4th quarter from the entire raptors team tonight hahahah you do realize that Kawhi scored nearly that much by himself in game 7 vs 76ers?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Yup. Differences in playoff series often are subtle given the small sample sizes. Yet you know we will forever hear they went from champs to losing in the second round when the actual shift in performance was basically one shot going the other way.

After losing the best player in the world the Raptors were in the series and game 7 to the very end. If Lowry doesn't get fouled out and he is taking that shot instead of the ridiculous FVV possession they could have been en route to the finals. Not exactly Miami after LeBron or even OKC after KD (or to be fair, San Antonio without Kawhi).

OG made the 0.5 shot though and he wasn't even on Kawhi's team. Siakam averaged like 14 points on 45% TS hahahha and Fred van vleet who averaged 2PPG for kawhi? He was in a star role. They still couldn't get the job done though, they are incapable of beating any good teams.

[FireDavidKahn]

Raptors with Kawhi: 2nd seed in the eastern conference and went to a game 7 in the semis (and barely won)

Raptors without Kawhi: finished 2nd seed in the eastern conference and went to a game 7 in the semis (and barely lost)

the difference between the two? A LUCKY SHOT

[Roundball_Rock]

raptors without kawhi - 50+win team and a 50+win percentage and second round playoffs every year



thats the definition of a good supporting cast

These people act like teams lose superstars and perform at that high a level routinely. Its happened only twice in 70+ years.

We had a lengthy thread months ago discussing this. One of the shining examples provided as another team doing great without its best player was the Thunder going from a 59 win pace and Game 7 of the WCF with KD to 47 wins and a first round loss. This was cited as an amazing example of a team remaining solid...compare that to what Toronto did without Kawhi.