Lebrons rings are worth 3x as much as Jordan's rings

[superduper]

Brannies ITT

[Manny98]

By the winning % in the playoffs prior to the finals the Warriors would've won 58 games in the RS. That's the team Lebron beat.



They were a quarter away from getting ousted by OKC twice in the CFs. Nobody believed they were unbeatable by the finals anymore.

The Warriors were still HEAVY favourites going into the finals.

[3ball]

Stats - MJ wins (#1 PPG and efficiency rating)

Winning - MJ has 6 rings

Leadership - MJ's teammates went from single-digit rookies to all-stars

Clutch - MJ

Accomplishment: 6 rings as "the man", 2 three-peats


There is no category that Lebron wins - if you want to look at individual series, nothing is better than MJ's 44 on 50% against the goat celtics

[Manny98]

Stats - MJ wins (#1 PPG and efficiency rating)

Winning - MJ has 6 rings

Leadership - MJ's teammates went from single-digit rookies to all-stars

Clutch - MJ

Accomplishment: 6 rings as "the man", 2 three-peats


There is no category that Lebron wins - if you want to look at individual series, nothing is better than MJ's 44 on 50% against the goat celtics

Lebron had more points,assists,rebounds,playoff wins, gamewinners,beat more quality teams, more MVP level seasons...

Do I need to go on

MJ only has 6 rings because he played in a watered down era and had the best Small forward in the entire NBA by his side his entire career

[3ball]

Lebron had more points,assists,rebounds,playoff wins, gamewinners,beat more quality teams, more MVP level seasons...

Do I need to go on

MJ only has 6 rings because he played in a watered down era and had the best Small forward in the entire NBA by his side his entire career

Lebron's stats are all longevity related

mj did more per game like ppg, plus-minus, oreb, ortg - the important stuff

and Lebron is only 37% on clutch shots in the playoffs versus MJ's 50%....... and 0% in the championship, versus MJ's 50%..... So MJ was far more clutch

And Wade > Pippen... Love/Bosh > Grant.. so bron had a lot more help to win 3 rings than MJ

that's why MJ averaged 33.7 and 6.6 apg in the 91-93' playoffs versus Lebron's 27.2 and 7.2 in the 12/13/16 playoffs - MJ did a lot more to win because his cast was worse
.

[ImKobe]

Lebron had more points,assists,rebounds,playoff wins, gamewinners,beat more quality teams, more MVP level seasons...

Do I need to go on

MJ only has 6 rings because he played in a watered down era and had the best Small forward in the entire NBA by his side his entire career

That's false. Grant Hill was clearly better from 96-98.

[3ball]

That's false. Grant Hill was clearly better from 96-98.

and pippen only has 2 first-team all-nba's, so various guys were better every year

[ImKobe]

and pippen only has 2 first-team all-nba's, so there were multiple guys better every year

Chris Mullin in the early 90s. That guy was a beast.

[Manny98]

Whoops

[superduper]

Literally all Brannies can cling on to is empty longevity stats and running away to superteams

[egokiller]

Why is the 2016 championship so great?

Because Kyrie was so clutch and hit the game winner while his teammate did nothing in the last 4 minutes of play other than a block.

Lebron = deer in headlights.

[Manny98]

Literally all Brannies can cling on to is empty longevity stats and running away to superteams

Y'all want clutch stats?

[Rico2016]

Whoops

Wow is this true?

[3ball]

[COLOR="Blue"]^^^ That required a lot more games and is just the last 5 seconds - on the last possession (last 24 seconds), MJ is the most lethal/likely to win the game:[/COLOR]





[COLOR="Blue"]And for the Finals only, Lebron is 0-8 (0% to win the game in the championship) while MJ is 4-8 (50% to win the game)

And MJ was far more clutch in the last 5 minutes of tight games:[/COLOR]



[COLOR="Navy"]Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%[/COLOR]
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com...r_by=date_game



Jordan 1997 Playoffs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

[COLOR="darkgreen"]42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%[/COLOR]
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game

[COLOR="Navy"]Old MJ had much higher clutch efficiency and attempts than Lebron - the goat in tight games[/COLOR]

[Overdrive]

The Warriors were still HEAVY favourites going into the finals.

So were the Heat in '11, so why is Dirk's ring not as impressive as Lebron's?

Y'all want clutch stats?

How many opportunities were there for either? Both pg and in total?