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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by Bankaii

    Lebron > Ordan and that's all that matters
    [COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR][COLOR="Navy"]NBA.COM'S STATS ON
    "MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
    [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)
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    [COLOR="White"].......................[/COLOR]Midrange Efficiency .

    [COLOR="Red"]M Jordan. 1997:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 48.9%.. 588/1202[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="Red"]M Jordan. 1998:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 43.2%.. 476/1101[/COLOR]

    Lebron.. 2004:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 33.2%.. 183/551
    Lebron.. 2005:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.0%.. 217/602
    Lebron.. 2006:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.4%.. 242/630
    Lebron.. 2007:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 35.1%.. 204/581
    Lebron.. 2008:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.4%.. 185/508
    Lebron.. 2009:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.8%.. 193/525
    Lebron.. 2010:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.8%.. 188/444
    Lebron.. 2011:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 44.6%.. 217/487
    Lebron.. 2012:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 42.3%.. 188/444
    Lebron.. 2013:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 43.2%.. 174/403
    Lebron.. 2014:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.5%.. 126/327
    Lebron.. 2015:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.0%.. 127/343
    Lebron.. 2016:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.1%.. 96/259


    Lebron's midrange efficiency is below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons, while his 3-point percentage is 31% in the playoffs (34% in RS).

    The reality is that Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler ALL have poor midrange and 3-point efficiency, yet they're still the top wing scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows good athletes easier access to the rim than ever before.

    Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he had goat midrange efficiency, which would give him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrook and company.

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

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    [COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR][COLOR="Navy"]NBA.COM'S STATS ON
    "MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
    [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)
    [/COLOR]




    [COLOR="White"].......................[/COLOR]Midrange Efficiency .

    [COLOR="Red"]M Jordan. 1997:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 48.9%.. 588/1202[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="Red"]M Jordan. 1998:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 43.2%.. 476/1101[/COLOR]

    Lebron.. 2004:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 33.2%.. 183/551
    Lebron.. 2005:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.0%.. 217/602
    Lebron.. 2006:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.4%.. 242/630
    Lebron.. 2007:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 35.1%.. 204/581
    Lebron.. 2008:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.4%.. 185/508
    Lebron.. 2009:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.8%.. 193/525
    Lebron.. 2010:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.8%.. 188/444
    Lebron.. 2011:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 44.6%.. 217/487
    Lebron.. 2012:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 42.3%.. 188/444
    Lebron.. 2013:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 43.2%.. 174/403
    Lebron.. 2014:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.5%.. 126/327
    Lebron.. 2015:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.0%.. 127/343
    Lebron.. 2016:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.1%.. 96/259


    Lebron's midrange percentage is below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons and his career 3-point percentage is only 31% in the playoffs.

    The reality is that Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler ALL have sub-par 3-point and midrange efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

    MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had goat midrange efficiency, even better than Curry's, which gives him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.. MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism, with better midrange shooting than Steph Curry.. That's the goat
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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    oh ok, thanks 3ball, i can now very logically disdain that Lebron (or any player/team) accomplishment, the Finals and hell even the NBA... just because Jordan existed...

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by Bankaii
    Lebron > Ordan and that's all that matters
    This.

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Did you seriously just bump your own thread with the same fvckin post?

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Pre-emptive threads about Lebron winning the championship?

    The King got you shook

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Bump. OP is a phaggit

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    The definition of insecurity

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    I know 50 NBA players better than Lebron "choker" James.

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    I made an identical thread last season before the Cavs went to the Finals and lost:

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=378083


    So I'm doing the same thing again this year in advance of the Cavs impending Finals loss.

    You don't think that I'm serious about the Cavs winning do you?...

    It's all a troll... 2/7 incoming...





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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by Gileraracer
    I know 50 NBA players better than Lebron "choker" James.
    How come this dude straight disappeared?

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    How come this dude straight disappeared?
    Says the guy who crawled into his hole for over 6 months after the 2015 Finals.

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Lame reasons... if Lebron wins it again Jordan will still have 2 more rings / fmvps and 1 more mvp (and 1 more dpoy).... its really that simple, will you ever stop with the insecurity 3ball...

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    Default Re: Top 6 reasons MJ > Lebron for when CLE wins it this year - 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Lame reasons... if Lebron wins it again Jordan will still have 2 more rings / fmvps and 1 more mvp (and 1 more dpoy).... its really that simple, will you ever stop with the insecurity 3ball...
    Says the future 3ball of Lebron in 10-15 years.

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