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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    I probably would have chosen Mourning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Dayz
    Shaq was the 99 MVP if we're going by regular season performance.
    Somehow, I knew you were going to say this.

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    Nobody had a regular season that stood out that much, it was a strange year and as a result, season awards and leaders mean less to me for that season. I'd probably go with Duncan, maybe Mourning, but Duncan was probably the most deserving. Don't see why Iverson should've won over either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rake2204
    It looks like Shaq had a beast of a year (as could be expected).
    Not really, he was the best offensive player in the game, but he seemed lazy that season, particularly defensively and had what was easily the worst season of his prime. He didn't deserve it in '99.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaRegul8r
    It was a Career Achievement Award. "A player as good as he is deserves to win MVP at least once." I hate that kind of thinking. What in the world does whether or not a player has won MVP before have to do with whether or not he's deserving of it for a particular season?

    Agreed, that's a big reason why many, myself included, disagree with the winners, or don't care much about them.

    There's too much inconsistency with what the voters look at, and it becomes a complete joke when they look at what a player did outside that year when the award is for that year. A player's season shouldn't be compared to one of their previous seasons either when determining the MVP of that season. They should only be competing against other player's seasons that year and I think that if a player wins MVP and doesn't follow it up with as good of a season, voters are more reluctant to vote for them again.

    It also bothers me that voters seem too influenced by who exceeded preseason expectations.

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaRegul8r
    Duncan should have won it in '99. It was a complete joke, because the MVP voting took place before the season ended.



    What kind of regular season award is decided BEFORE the end of the regular season?
    Really is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
    Really is this true?
    No Idea but I do agree the MVP of the 99 RS was either Duncan, Shaq or Mourning.

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    Am I really the only person who was alive at the time, watching basketball and old enough to know what I saw? 1999 was only 12 years ago. No one else remembers this?

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    I always thought TD should have won that year. I was shocked with the Malone selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Dayz
    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaRegul8r
    Duncan should have won it in '99. It was a complete joke, because the MVP voting took place before the season ended.



    What kind of regular season award is decided BEFORE the end of the regular season?

    Really is this true?
    No Idea but I do agree the MVP of the 99 RS was either Duncan, Shaq or Mourning.
    I was trying to find evidence, as it doesn't seem I saved any articles from the time it actually happened, and it's much harder to look for something after the fact than it is to have actually saved it when it happened (which is why I generally do save articles at the time it happened, not sure why I didn't have any on this). Here's one article entitled "Early Voting Cheapens NBA Awards," but unfortunately, it's pay-to-view:

    http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sun_sent...S&pqatl=google

    EDIT: Here's one:

    Considered a heavy favourite for MVP honours, Tim Duncan was a bit surprised to learn that ballots had already been submitted for the award prior to the close of the NBA season later this week.
    Here's another:

    Early MVP votes may hurt Duncan


    No matter what Tim Duncan, Karl Malone or Alonzo Mourning do in the final few days of the season, it won't change many MVP votes.

    Most of the voters have already cast their ballots.

    ''That's tough. I really didn't know it was like that,'' San Antonio's Tim Duncan said after believing he might have changed a few voters' minds Sunday by outplaying Malone down the stretch
    Another:

    "I thought they did actually (vote at the end of the season), but whatever happens," said Duncan, whose teammates also were under the impression that the Spurs' recent success could translate into a few changed MVP votes.
    Last edited by ThaRegul8r; 12-06-2011 at 12:12 AM.

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    Quote Originally Posted by 32Dayz
    Shaq was the 99 MVP if we're going by regular season performance.

    I'd have Mourning 2nd and Duncan 3rd.
    Not at all. Before Phil came by Shaq was lazy as shit defensively. Those 99 lakers ranked 104.3 for 23 overall and Shaq a 102...that's pretty paltry especially for what he was capable of. The heat were 8th with 98.9...with Alonzo being a 93 lol. 21pts 11rebs 3.9bpg .563ts%...Alonzo was a beast that season. The best defensive player by far at the time and great all around. The Heat led he Atlantic division and were tied for the best record in the East that season. He should have absolutely been given MVP along with that DPOY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
    The Jazz had the best record and Stockton didnt do much

    to me this is the real MVP


    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/1999.html
    Yeah if Alonzo didn't have the incident in the locker room with the female reporter he would have won it. I agree 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    Not at all. Before Phil came by Shaq was lazy as shit defensively. Those 99 lakers ranked 104.3 for 23 overall and Shaq a 102...that's pretty paltry especially for what he was capable of.
    Thats not true at all.

    Shaq was one of the best defensive Centers in the league in 99.
    He was a true defensive anchor and he was not lazy on that end.
    Amazing Shot-Blocker, M2M Defender and even played above average Help/PNR defense since he still skinny and extremely mobile at that point.

    The only Centers better then him defensively in 99 were Mourning and maybe Mutombo / DRob.

    Also significantly better then Mourning or Duncan 0ffensively that year.
    He imo has the best case for 99 MVP out of those three.
    Shaq got robbed of DPOY in 00.
    Last edited by 32Dayz; 12-06-2011 at 01:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._1999.html#mvp

    Tim Dunca finished third Jason Kid fifth Allen Iverso fourth
    That's some crazy numbers, when you look at them.

    Malone: 23.8/9.4/4.1
    Zo: 20.1/11.0/1.6
    Duncan: 21.7/11.4/2.4
    AI: 26.8/4.9/4.6
    Kidd: 16.9/6.8/10.8
    Shaq: 26.3/10.7/2.3
    Webber: 20.0/13.0/4.1
    Hill: 21.1/7.1/6.0
    Payton: 21.7/4.9/8.7
    KG: 20.8/10.4/4.3


    Basically bigs averaging 20/10, GP scoring a lot. Looks very good.

    And Pierce being 3rd in rookies. Yet having best win share (whatever that is, I'm actually amazed he was putting only ~2,5 assists). Although Carter's year wasn't THAT spectacular with 18.3/5.7/3.0 either.

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    I might have voted for Grant Hill
    Pistons won 58% of their games (48 games in 82 game season)
    and check out who he had to play with:
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/1999.html

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Tim Dunca finished third Jason Kid fifth Allen Iverso fourth

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    Default Re: How did K. Malon win MVP in '99?

    Freakin Darrell Armstrong had MVP votes, LOL!

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