Why do some fans rank Kobe Bryant ahead of Tim Duncan?

[N0Skillz]

How exactly is Duncan the 2nd best player on this team?

Have you seen Tony Parker?

[Deuce Bigalow]

If he gets a ring as the 2nd best player this year.

He's the 3rd best player on the Spurs

[tpols]

You have to put the rings into perspective.

Playoff runs:

Kobe Bryant
'00: 21.1-4.5-4.4-.470 eFG% (Championship)
'01: 29.4-7.3-6.1-.485 eFG% (Championship)
'02: 26.6-5.8-4.6-.459 eFG% (Championship)
'04: 24.5-4.7-5.5-.439 eFG% (Finals)
'08: 30.1-5.7-5.6-.514 eFG% (Finals)
'09: 30.2-5.3-5.5-.492 eFG% (Championship, Finals MVP)
'10: 29.2-6.0-5.5-.506 eFG% (Championship, Finals MVP)

Tim Duncan
'99: 23.2-11.5-2.8-.511 eFG% (Championship, Finals MVP)
'03: 24.7-15.4-5.3-.529 eFG% (Championship, Finals MVP)
'05: 23.6-12.4-2.7-.465 eFG% (Championship, Finals MVP)
'07: 22.2-11.5-3.3-.521 eFG% (Championship)

Even though Kobe didn't win Finals MVP in '01, that run was better than 3 of Duncan's ('99, '05, '07)
Plus Kobe has repeated multiple times, while Duncan has never.

Yup.. being 'the man' is very overrated when you're putting up 29/7/6.

29/7/6 is better than what most first options put up en route to championships.. Lebron right now will be lucky to average 29/7/6 through these playoffs.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Kobe as a 2nd option during the first 3peat had a greater responsibility to the Lakers offense than Duncan flanked by his two Hall of fame guards.

The fact that prime Shaq was a better offensive force than young Kobe is irrelevant to a Kobe vs Duncan comparison.

[NumberSix]

Duncan > Kobe. Not close.

[andgar923]

ROFL the goof troop is out in full brigade.

They mad.

[konex]

Have you seen Tony Parker?

I've also seen Manu. He's the 2nd best player on the team, not Duncan ;)

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yup.. being 'the man' is very overrated when you're putting up 29/7/6.

29/7/6 is better than what most first options put up en route to championships.. Lebron right now will be lucky to average 29/7/6 through these playoffs.

Yup. Plus Kobe was every bit as much as the man as Shaq in the 4th quarters of the '01 and '02 championships.
He led the Lakers in 4th quarter points those two postseasons

Interesting facts about the 2002 2nd round series vs San Antonio

Game 4:

4th Quarter
Kobe - 12
Spurs - 10

He hit the game winner with 5.1 sec remaining to give the Lakers a 3-1 lead.
And the game before that? Kobe scored 11 points in the 4th quarter on 5/5 shooting in game 3 giving the Lakers a 2-1 series lead.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan > Kobe. Not close.

[iDefend5]

A LeBron fan who will do anything to devalue Kobe.

He has 5 rings.

Ah typical ISH. Someone gets butthurt so they immedietly attack the persons favorite team/player even when it's irrelevant to the discussion. Pretty sure OP doesn't have LeBron ranked over Duncan either so I don't see how this is to gain credibility for LeBron.

Duncan is clearly better. That Odin guy posted a great image. Duncans team has consistantly been 50 wins+ since he was drafted and the ONLY constant on the roster has been Tim Duncan. Kobe proved when Shaq was traded he cannot carry teams as seen by his miraculous 0 playoff series victories post Shaq and pre-Gasol. Now that Gasol has declined and is no longer a top 3 bigman in the league Kobe is looking for someone else's **** to ride. Dwight Howard anyone?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Ah typical ISH. Someone gets butthurt so they immedietly attack the persons favorite team/player even when it's irrelevant to the discussion. Pretty sure OP doesn't have LeBron ranked over Duncan either so I don't see how this is to gain credibility for LeBron.

Duncan is clearly better. That Odin guy posted a great image. Duncans team has consistantly been 50 wins+ since he was drafted and the ONLY constant on the roster has been Tim Duncan. Kobe proved when Shaq was traded he cannot carry teams as seen by his miraculous 0 playoff series victories post Shaq and pre-Gasol. Now that Gasol has declined and is no longer a top 3 bigman in the league Kobe is looking for someone else's **** to ride. Dwight Howard anyone?

The greatness of Kobe Bryant can no better be defined than the expectation that he should be good enough to win championships on his own. Kobe won 5 rings with one other HOF player per title team, if Duncan gets his 5 it will be 2 per title team for him. Are you telling me the contributions of Shaq OR Gasol are greater than Tony Parker AND Manu Ginobli. ? Do you see any other star players winning multiple championships with only one other star/HOF player?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Finals MVP. Robert Horry is a 7x Champion. Prime John Havlicek was also a good NBA player. His team won 9 NBA Championships, but you never see some jerk offs rank him ahead of Hakeem and Bird. LeBron will win an NBA Finals MVP. He's better than that @$$hole.

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[amfirst]

I have Kobe above Duncan. Why because Parker was clearly the best player on the Spurs for the last two Championships that they won.

It is what it is...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

just be glad you're enjoying an era that included shaq/duncan/kobe/lebron/wade/dwight/yao/tmac/vince c/iverson. lets worry about the rankings in like 10 years.

[Odinn]

I have Kobe above Duncan. Why because Parker was clearly the best player on the Spurs for the last two Championships that they won.

It is what it is...