the value of clutch

[knicksman]

There have been plenty of times I've been unsure of myself in a game but actually end of playing my best basketball.

It's weird, I set my expectations for myself low and don't expect much but I make a couple plays and start exploding.

Same goes for baseball. I was constantly nervous when I'd play SS, but I rarely made a mistake.

The games I showed up calm and relaxed, I would lay an egg. We all handle things differently but at the end of the day it's the results that matter.

LeBron comes though more times than not, and statistically blows most guys out of the water in clutch situations. Guy is one of the most clutch passers I've ever seen too but that doesn't count for people on here. He plays his best defense in clutch moments. LeBron more times than not turns it on in big ways during crunch time. Always has, always will. One series doesn't change that.

Isn't he right behind Jordan for most game winning shots in the playoffs?

His playoff PER is 28. Kobes is like 22.

Not to turn this into Kobe vs Bron but he blows Kobe out of the water in clutch situations and overall playoff resume.

But kobe is fearless doe?!

well then why is he 2/6 mr HenryGarfunkle?

[oarabbus]

stopped reading at 'baseball'

[Mr. Jabbar]

well then why is he 2/6 mr HenryGarfunkle?

he was mind raped by kobe at a young age

[knicksman]

he was mind raped by kobe at a young age

no wonder hes constantly nervous despite playing an easy game like baseball

[tmacattack33]

But at the same time, i do get your point about a guy like Kobe who can be too confident and tries to do too much. This comes back to playing the game the right way and finding a balance. But Kobe is one of the most clutch players ever. I don't care what the numbers say. Numbers can't measure clutchness. Only eyes can and seeing each game and situation for what it is.

Not really. If the stat is a good stat, i'll take the stat over some human's opinion any day.

The human won't be able to remember every clutch play a guy has had in his career...and he can also be biased (without even knowing it himself).

[dhsilv]

I'd never dispute Rivera being the GOAT closer, but dude has imo the biggest choke by a closer in MLB history ('01 World Series Game 7), and also blew another save (2004 ALCS Game 4) that helped set up the biggest choke in MLB history, if not sports history. Those are two huge blemishes on his resume, yet I've never heard him criticized for either of them ever

cause his stats are so out of this world you just can't?

Sure his value is less, but his dominance is about the best there is ever. The red sox seemed to have some guys who knew him well enough to hit him, but otherwise....I mean WOW. His playoff ERA is so absurd. Hell his regular reason ERA....he's got a deadball era ERA.

[dhsilv]

Yes there is. It's called eyes.

Man, eyes are biased and full of crap. What most people see and what kobe and MJ were great at is creating space. Even a guy like Horry how many times did he come through and how many times did he fail? Can you show meaningfully it was just him and not dumb luck?

3 shots fall differently and the shaq lakers win 1 title and not 3. Sometimes you just have the ball bounce the right way.