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The Special One
Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Most dominant my ass. Top 5 my ass
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National High School Star
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Shaq isn't as fundamental defensively as someone like Tim Duncan.
But he's a good post defender (due to his size and his strength) and most importantly he imposes fear on the opponent guards.
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Buck Dynasty
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Peak Shaq finished 2nd in DPOY voting and anchored the #1 defense in the league. You're retarded.
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The Special One
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Originally Posted by Milbuck
Peak Shaq finished 2nd in DPOY voting and anchored the #1 defense in the league. You're retarded.
That's all I hear, peak Shaq this peak Shaq that. Duncan dominated his ass for years. They talking about most dominant big man. He was just a bully (physically superior with incredible charisma on and off the court). Make no mistakes, his ass is behind Duncan out of the top 5.
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The Special One
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Originally Posted by Milbuck
Peak Shaq finished 2nd in DPOY voting and anchored the #1 defense in the league. You're retarded.
Finished 2nd in DPOY (that's cute) for how many years did he find himself in that position?
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MH!
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
Finished 2nd in DPOY (that's cute) for how many years did he find himself in that position?
Duncan's highest finish is #3 and he did that ONCE. Kobe has 9 All-NBA First selections is he a better defender than Pippen?
Stop being retarded. Shaq is top 5 and you just have to deal with it.
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Trust the process.
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
It generally helps to watch basketball before 2010 so you know what the hell is going on.
It's harder to find good threads here than it it is to find dumb ones.
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The Special One
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Originally Posted by aj1987
Duncan's highest finish is #3 and he did that ONCE. Kobe has 9 All-NBA First selections is he a better defender than Pippen?
Stop being retarded. Shaq is top 5 and you just have to deal with it.
No he ain't
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MH!
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
No he ain't
Excellent argument. Go back to stanning Deron Williams, dumbass.
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College star
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
I never remember Shaq ever being the best defensive center in the league??
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XXL
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
All defensive teams are the worst measurement of an individual's defense
DPOY and DPOY voting/rank is a much better subjective analysis, to go along with defense advanced metrics
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NBA Finals MVP
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Originally Posted by Fire Colangelo
Shaq isn't as fundamental defensively as someone like Tim Duncan.
But he's a good post defender (due to his size and his strength) and most importantly he imposes fear on the opponent guards.
This
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Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Shaq was pretty bad defending screen and roll. Detroit killed him in 2004.
Rim protection and lane intimidation was he extent of Shaq's defense. That's all he really neeeded in his heyday though.
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Believeland
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
Centers have a hard time making these All-Defensive team spots.
Guards and Forward have 4 spots each to be able to get in. Centers only have 2. Meaning you could have been considered the 3rd best defender at your position (or the league, potentially) your entire career, and never make an all-defensive team.
I don't think Shaq was dominant defensively but I do think he struck fear in his opponents and was able to body up most people he went against. If Centers got 4 spots every year, I'm willing to bet Shaq would have a couple more selections.
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XXL
Re: Shaq with 0 ALL NBA Defensive 1st team selection in 19 nba seasons (Overrated)
It always came down to effort for Shaq
in 99-2000, he was in really great shape, and motivated
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