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    Default How many players were carried in four of five categories?





    How many players needed this much help? Just imagine only leading in one category.

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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

    Oh okay so besides Mike Jordan has anyone else been carried in four of five categories?

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    [COLOR="White"]..............[/COLOR][COLOR="darkred"]Only MJ led his team in scoring for every series, and he did so by an average of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option[/COLOR]



    [COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]PPG for #1 scorer[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] PPG for #2 scorer[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Difference


    1985 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.3............... Woolrige 20.5.................. [COLOR="Red"]8.8[/COLOR]

    1986 Round 1:...... Jordan 43.7............... Woolrige 21.0................ [COLOR="Red"]22.7[/COLOR]

    1987 Round 1:...... Jordan 35.7............... C Oakley 20.0................ [COLOR="Red"]15.7[/COLOR]

    1988 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.2............... C Oakley 10.8................ [COLOR="Red"]34.4[/COLOR]
    1988 Round 2:...... Jordan 27.4............... C Oakley 12.8................ [COLOR="Red"]14.6[/COLOR]

    1989 Round 1:...... Jordan 39.8............... S Pippen 15.0................ [COLOR="Red"]25.0[/COLOR]
    1989 Round 2:...... Jordan 35.7............... S Pippen 14.8................ [COLOR="Red"]20.9[/COLOR]
    1989 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.7............... C Hodges 12.0............... [COLOR="Red"]17.7[/COLOR]

    1990 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.8............... S Pippen 22.5................ [COLOR="Red"]14.3[/COLOR]
    1990 Round 2:...... Jordan 43.0............... S Pippen 20.8................ [COLOR="Red"]22.2[/COLOR]
    1990 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.1............... S Pippen 16.6................ [COLOR="Red"]15.5[/COLOR]

    1991 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.0............... S Pippen 19.7................ [COLOR="Red"]9.3[/COLOR]
    1991 Round 2:...... Jordan 33.4............... S Pippen 23.4................ [COLOR="Red"]10.0[/COLOR]
    1991 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.8............... S Pippen 22.0................ [COLOR="Red"]7.8[/COLOR]
    1991 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.2............... S Pippen 20.8................ [COLOR="Red"]10.4[/COLOR]


    1992 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.0............... S Pippen 24.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]21.0[/COLOR]
    1992 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.3............... S Pippen 16.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.3[/COLOR]
    1992 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 19.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.9[/COLOR]
    1992 Round 4:...... Jordan 35.8............... S Pippen 20.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.0[/COLOR]

    1993 Round 1:...... Jordan 34.3............... S Pippen 15.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]19.0[/COLOR]
    1993 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 18.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.7[/COLOR]
    1993 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.2............... S Pippen 22.5.............. [COLOR="Red"]9.8[/COLOR]
    1993 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 21.2.............. [COLOR="Red"]19.8[/COLOR]

    1995 Round 1:...... Jordan 32.3............... T Kukocs 17.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.0[/COLOR]
    1995 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 19.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.0[/COLOR]

    1996 Round 1:...... Jordan 30.0............... S Pippen 19.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]10.3[/COLOR]
    1996 Round 2:...... Jordan 36.0............... S Pippen 15.6.............. [COLOR="Red"]20.4[/COLOR]
    1996 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.5............... S Pippen 18.5.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.0[/COLOR]
    1996 Round 4:...... Jordan 27.3............... S Pippen 15.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.6[/COLOR]

    1997 Round 1:...... Jordan 37.3............... S Pippen 16.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]20.6[/COLOR]
    1997 Round 2:...... Jordan 26.6............... S Pippen 22.2.............. [COLOR="Red"]4.4[/COLOR]
    1997 Round 3:...... Jordan 30.2............... S Pippen 16.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]17.4[/COLOR]
    1997 Round 4:...... Jordan 32.3............... S Pippen 20.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.3[/COLOR]

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    1998 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.3............... S Pippen 18.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]18.3[/COLOR]
    1998 Round 2:...... Jordan 29.6............... S Pippen 17.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.8[/COLOR]
    1998 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 16.6.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.1
    [/COLOR]1998 Round 4:...... Jordan 33.5............... S Pippen 15.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]17.8[/COLOR]

    [COLOR="White"].................................................. ............................................[/COLOR]______
    [COLOR="White"].................................................. ........................[/COLOR][COLOR="DarkGreen"]15.4 average difference[/COLOR]
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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

    You guys like Gamescore right? What's the average Gamescore between Jordan and Pippen over that same span

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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

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    MJ carried the goat scoring load (shown in previous post above), but he also led the bulls in APG for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and assisted on the most bulls' field goals for both 3-peats


    Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

    Jordan: [COLOR="Red"]31.1%[/COLOR]
    Pippen: [COLOR="Red"]23.3%[/COLOR]

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...yoffs_advanced
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...yoffs_advanced


    Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

    Jordan: [COLOR="Red"]22.3%[/COLOR]
    Pippen: [COLOR="Red"]22.0%[/COLOR]

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...yoffs_advanced
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...yoffs_advanced


    and again - in addition to leading the bulls in passing, MJ had the goat scoring load - he's the only all-time great that led his team in scoring for every series of his career, and he did so by an average margin of 15.4 ppg over his 2nd option (see post above)
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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay




    How many players needed this much help? Just imagine only leading in one category.
    Wow And1AllDay got'm spinnin

    Looks like 3ball made yet another thread backfire

    So is Jordan literally the only player in NBA history that was carried in four of five statistical categories

    Uh...oh
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Wow And1AllDay got'm spinnin

    Looks like someone made another thread backfire

    So is Jordan literally the only player in NBA history that was carried in four of five statistical categories

    Uh...oh
    there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load for all his rings..

    while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

    Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals...

    ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load for all his rings..

    while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

    Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals...

    ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer
    Yes...we know he can dunk on 6'2 guards. Cool.

    MJ = 1/5 (Points)
    Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

    Who was really carrying who?

    How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?
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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Yes...we know he can dunk on 6'2 guards. Cool.

    MJ = 1/4 (Points)
    Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

    Who was really carrying who?

    How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?
    MJ averaged more assists, steals and points so your claim is false anyway.

    And again, there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load..

    while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

    Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals...

    ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer

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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

    LeBron fans still salty?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    MJ averaged more assists, steals and points so your claim is false anyway.

    And again, there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load..

    while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

    Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals...

    ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer




    MJ = 1/5 (Points)
    Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

    How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?

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    Watching Bronsexuals trying to prop up their idol yet failing every time...


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    Default Re: How many players were carried in four of five categories?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    [COLOR="White"]..............[/COLOR][COLOR="darkred"]Only MJ led his team in scoring for every series, and he did so by an average of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option[/COLOR]



    [COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]PPG for #1 scorer[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] PPG for #2 scorer[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Difference


    1985 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.3............... Woolrige 20.5.................. [COLOR="Red"]8.8[/COLOR]

    1986 Round 1:...... Jordan 43.7............... Woolrige 21.0................ [COLOR="Red"]22.7[/COLOR]

    1987 Round 1:...... Jordan 35.7............... C Oakley 20.0................ [COLOR="Red"]15.7[/COLOR]

    1988 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.2............... C Oakley 10.8................ [COLOR="Red"]34.4[/COLOR]
    1988 Round 2:...... Jordan 27.4............... C Oakley 12.8................ [COLOR="Red"]14.6[/COLOR]

    1989 Round 1:...... Jordan 39.8............... S Pippen 15.0................ [COLOR="Red"]25.0[/COLOR]
    1989 Round 2:...... Jordan 35.7............... S Pippen 14.8................ [COLOR="Red"]20.9[/COLOR]
    1989 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.7............... C Hodges 12.0............... [COLOR="Red"]17.7[/COLOR]

    1990 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.8............... S Pippen 22.5................ [COLOR="Red"]14.3[/COLOR]
    1990 Round 2:...... Jordan 43.0............... S Pippen 20.8................ [COLOR="Red"]22.2[/COLOR]
    1990 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.1............... S Pippen 16.6................ [COLOR="Red"]15.5[/COLOR]

    1991 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.0............... S Pippen 19.7................ [COLOR="Red"]9.3[/COLOR]
    1991 Round 2:...... Jordan 33.4............... S Pippen 23.4................ [COLOR="Red"]10.0[/COLOR]
    1991 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.8............... S Pippen 22.0................ [COLOR="Red"]7.8[/COLOR]
    1991 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.2............... S Pippen 20.8................ [COLOR="Red"]10.4[/COLOR]


    [B]1992 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.0............... S Pippen 24.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]21.0[/COLOR]
    1992 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.3............... S Pippen 16.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.3[/COLOR]
    1992 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 19.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.9[/COLOR]
    1992 Round 4:...... Jordan 35.8............... S Pippen 20.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.0[/COLOR]

    1993 Round 1:...... Jordan 34.3............... S Pippen 15.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]19.0[/COLOR]
    1993 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 18.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.7[/COLOR]
    1993 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.2............... S Pippen 22.5.............. [COLOR="Red"]9.8[/COLOR]
    1993 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 21.2.............. [COLOR="Red"]19.8[/COLOR]

    1995 Round 1:...... Jordan 32.3............... T Kukocs 17.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.0[/COLOR]
    1995 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 19.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.0[/COLOR]

    1996 Round 1:...... Jordan 30.0............... S Pippen 19.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]10.3[/COLOR]
    1996 Round 2:...... Jordan 36.0............... S Pippen 15.6.............. [COLOR="Red"]20.4[/COLOR]
    1996 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.5............... S Pippen 18.5.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.0[/COLOR]
    1996 Round 4:...... Jordan 27.3............... S Pippen 15.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.6[/COLOR]

    1997 Round 1:...... Jordan 37.3............... S Pippen 16.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]20.6[/COLOR]
    1997 Round 2:...... Jordan 26.6............... S Pippen 22.2.............. [COLOR="Red"]4.4[/COLOR]
    1997 Round 3:...... Jordan 30.2............... S Pippen 16.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]17.4[/COLOR]
    Only led in one category (scoring) that's pathetic for the so called GOAT

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