Lebron isn't capable of averaging 37 like Harden/MJ at any point in his career

[Dray n Klay]

Lebron isn't capable of averaging 37..

It's just an observation

And an indicator of a skill deficit to others that have the repertiore and jumpshot to get 37

Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in 1998?

[sdot_thadon]

Lebron isn't capable of averaging 37..

It's just an observation

And an indicator of a skill deficit to others that have the repertiore and jumpshot to get 37

Seems like he just saves them for the games that really count to be honest. Hence the playoff runs of similar ppg and way less volume shooting than Mj. Different approaches to the game sir.

[3ball]

Seems like he just saves them for the games that really count to be honest. Hence the playoff runs of [COLOR="DarkRed"]similar ppg[/COLOR] and way less volume shooting than Mj. Different approaches to the game sir.

MJ scores 5 more ppg than lebron

That's not a "similar" amount; That a lot more

And he shot more because he made more, due to shooting more 2-pointers and less FT's (aka skill, not freebie points from 3's and FT's like lebron).

So the shot allocation accounts for the shot attempts, as MJ's shooting efficiency was near equal and overall offensive efficiency superior

[Dray n Klay]

MJ scores 5 more ppg than lebron

That's not a "similar" amount; That a lot more

And he shot more because he made more, due to shooting more 2-pointers and less FT's (aka skill, not freebie points from 3's and FT's like lebron).

So the shot allocation accounts for the shot attempts, as MJ's shooting efficiency was near equal and overall offensive efficiency superior

LeBron got double the rebounds and assists

[sdot_thadon]

MJ scores 5 more ppg than lebron

That's not a "similar" amount; That a lot more

And he shot more because he made more, due to shooting more 2-pointers and less FT's (aka skill, not freebie points from 3's and FT's like lebron).

So the shot allocation accounts for the shot attempts, as MJ's shooting efficiency was near equal and overall offensive efficiency superior

Op must have missed the time Lebron avg. 35 for a deep playoff run on only 22 attempts a game. Or even last year in his 15th season where he put up 34 on 23 attempts. Mj only has one run of at least 34 with so few fga per game. He usually requires between 4 to 6 more shots a game to reach those plateaus....

[TheCorporation]

Lebron isn't capable of averaging 37..

It's just an observation

And an indicator of a skill deficit to others that have the repertiore and jumpshot to get 37

• LBJ did 36-13-9 on 39% vs Klay, Dray, Iggy
• MJ did 27 on 41% vs 6'2.5 Payton

You really didn't think I was going to check you on this BS?

Comments?

[3ball]

LBJ did 36-13-9 on 39% vs Klay, Dray, Iggy

Comments?

Anyone can average 37 for 6 games

But again, Lebron isn't capable of averaging 37 for a season

It's just an observation

And an indicator of a skill deficit to others that have the repertiore and jumpshot to get 37..

[TheCorporation]

Anyone can average 37 for 6 games

But again, Lebron isn't capable of averaging 37 for a season

It's just an observation

And an indicator of a skill deficit to others that have the repertiore and jumpshot to get 37..

Finals baby boy.

Keep up

You're fading fast

[3ball]

And???



[COLOR="DarkRed"]He facilitates. He rebounds. Played great help defense. He didn't need to drop 37. [/COLOR]




The way Harden gets his is just........unappealing

Everyone knows that ball-movement gets shots for role players better than 1 guy dominating the ball in the halfcourt.. people have simply accepted lebron's ball-dominance in place of ball movement even though lebron's style results in low-assist teams that get massively out-assisted and trounced in the Finals

So don't whine about how lebron must do this and that... his personal assist totals mean nothing if they're coming at the expense of team assists and a brand that can compete well in the championship.. Lebron should be knocked for never developing the skill and fundamentals needed to play a better brand of team basketball (ball movement) that fares better on the championship level..

Ultimately, personal apg or rpg mean little... the important stats are whether the team won (winning basketball), and how much the player carried that winning (ppg and/or percentage of team pts).. also defense and clutch... That's what wins and constitutes great basketball.. not apg or rpg

[Soundwave]

Over a full season, no LeBron could not pull that off. It's too exhausting, people don't realize it's not easy every PPG after 30 ppg gets progressively tougher to go from 33 ppg for 36/37 ppg is not easy.

The amount of energy you have to exert over a 82 game season to get in that range takes a toll.

[3ball]

Over a full season, no LeBron could not pull that off. It's too exhausting, people don't realize it's not easy every PPG after 30 ppg gets progressively tougher to go from 33 ppg for 36/37 ppg is not easy.

The amount of energy you have to exert over a 82 game season to get in that range takes a toll.

People don't realize how many big games are needed.... The runs that Harden and MJ had were historic

And having that many big games requires a wet jumper which lebron doesn't have.. you can't have a bunch of 40 and 50 point games via bruising drives all game.. you need a wet jumper

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]

[3ball]

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Time of Possession per game:

Lebron 2015 Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 12.2 minutes (50% higher than RS leader Wall's 8.3 min)
J Harden. 2019. RS:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]9.5 minutes

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[3ball]

LBJ did 36-13-9 on 39%

The nba.com stats in the previous post show that lebron held the ball longer than anyone in recorded history (25% more than harden is this year) and couldn't attract a double-team, yet still shot horrifically (39%)

So don't compare his 36 to mj's 36

MJ averaged 36 in the 92 Finals with great efficiency, despite constant double teams, paint traffic and low hold-time.... his low hold time allowed high team assists and ball movement, while lebron's record ball-domination results in massive team assist deficits and record losses... No comparison

Klay, Dray, Iggy

MJ averaged 36 against 6'7" dunk participants Drexler/Kersey and also 6-time all-defense Buck Williams.. that's better athletes than klay/Iggy/dray..

MJ did 27 on 41% vs 6'2.5 Payton

Lebron won with 25 on 44.9% in the 2013 Finals, while being a net negative and needing Ray Allen to make game 7 after his 23 on 43% thru 6 games was insufficient (MJ's 27 on 42 would've been sufficient)
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[And1AllDay]

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