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Old 08-04-2009, 01:39 PM   #46
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Bibby is back in ATl. So they have Bibby and JJ in the back court, Marvin, Smith and Horford. They added Jeff Teague in the draft and traded scraps away from Jamal Crawford off the bench (who is better then Flip Murray). Of course you and I usually disagree, but we have to again here too! I see no reason Atl can't be even better this year with another year of growth internally from guys like Marvin and Horford and another season with the same crew together.

I agree. Although the lack of a true center will continue to hurt this young Hawks team. Horford is a great young player but he is by no means a center. Even a center like Bargnani would be able to punish their post.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:22 PM   #47
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Bibby is back in ATl. So they have Bibby and JJ in the back court, Marvin, Smith and Horford. They added Jeff Teague in the draft and traded scraps away from Jamal Crawford off the bench (who is better then Flip Murray). Of course you and I usually disagree, but we have to again here too! I see no reason Atl can't be even better this year with another year of growth internally from guys like Marvin and Horford and another season with the same crew together.

LMAO Rapfan

No on this one I am unsure - willing to be convinced. Want to understand what people see. I mightbe missing.

At first look you see a very old Bibby...who hasnt had a great season since Sacremento 2007 but then maybe I'm wrong. I thought AC Law was to be the future there; upside, underrated... going back to all those years JT played the point in Atlanta. Not many bigs. i.e. no C. A whole lot of tweener talent at 2-3.

I have undervalued the Hawks for 2-3 years especially as they played tough in the playoffs. I was oversold on other teams.

Interesting
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:48 PM   #48
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Another interesting x-factor in Atlanta will be the relationship between forward Josh Smith and coach Mike Woodson. I expect to see some trade rumors mid season and maybe this Hawks team dropping a few notches if Smith is not happy.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:08 PM   #49
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Horford is their C. He's just a bit shorter (we're talking a couple inches) then ideal. Isn't he still like 6'10"? He's a very good defender. Bargs could not 'punish' him on the post....that is laughable. Zaza is their backup C, better player then Rasho is. Bibby played really well and the key was how the other guys played with Bibby, and most of their numbers improved. Acie Law just proved to suck. Jeff Teague will probably be better as a rook then Law is this year.

I agree that Smith's attitue will be key. Statistically he's gotten better year after year and at times he can be dominate, but at other times he seems to coast.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:22 PM   #50
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1. Boston
2. Orlando
3. Cleveland
4. Hawks
5. Toronto
6.Heat
7. Bulls
8. Wizards

Toronto has a chance at the 4th and 5th spot at most.
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:39 PM   #51
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Just my HO as of right now...as for the 3 tiers; top 3 are the Elite, 4-6 are the playoff locks, and 7 and 8 are just a step below....

Cleveland – Lebron’s still there plus a better bench.
Orlando – VC can still ball. I loved signing Barnes and Bass pluss keeping Gortat.
Boston – Got Rasheed but may lose Powe and Davis. Still have the big 3 or is that 4 with Rondo…?
Atlanta – major pieces all back and upgraded from Murray to Crawford.
[b]Chicago[/B] – No one is going to miss Gordon as long as Rose is there.
Toronto – Much improved…still no D though…
Washington – Not sold on them considering their front court.
Miami – Wade, Beasley, and Chalmers is setting up to be a pretty good core.

not impressed with either of their D either...Raptors will better then atl and chi come the end of the year
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:51 PM   #52
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Early observations

The Inside Hoops Power Ranking Preseason - Toronto Raptors Version

The Top Tier - a lock: *obvious success*

Magic
Cavs
Celtics

The Mid Tier - competative for playoffs and 2 games separate top from bottom

Wizards *fail*
Raptors
Heat (higher with LO)
Bulls

Slugging it out for the last playoff spot

76ers (it was possible)
Hawks *fail*
Pistons *epic fail*
Pacers (also was possible)

Biggest Question Mark?

Celtics (true)

Biggest Upside?

Wizards *epic fail*

Team that might have to start over again?

Knicks
Bucks *fail*
Pacers

Coach most likely gone?

Doc Rivers in Beantown (very possible)
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:53 PM   #53
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New Jersey? I'd be surprised if they aren't the worst team in the league. Forget about them being a threat for the playoffs. They are rebuilding and in full tank mode.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:42 PM   #54
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Atta boy Q. I got to admit, I thought they'd be in the 8-10 range in the east. yikes.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:10 AM   #55
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Hey, it looked like I was going to get the top 5 right untill the Raps decided they really wanted to get some extra playoff coverage and play Lebron in the first round...

Like a lot of us who picked the Wiz to make the playoffs though, I get a nice big...FAIL!!
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:15 AM   #56
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what is up with you bringing back old posts?
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:47 AM   #57
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I don't think those original rankings were too bad actually. Nobody picked the Bucks. The only one that I would have thought at the time was way off was Atlanta.
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Old 04-05-2010, 11:54 AM   #58
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I don't think those original rankings were too bad actually. Nobody picked the Bucks. The only one that I would have thought at the time was way off was Atlanta.

Yeah I agree, most had Atlanta in the playoffs, but they have been a big surprise.

And the Bucks, even without Michael Redd, have made some good moves, and I don't think anyone expected Jennings to be so good, especially after the numbers he got in Europe.

And in all honesty, Washington, on paper, was definitely a playoff team. Arenas, Jamison, Butler, Haywood, Blatche. That SHOULD be a playoff team, but we all know what happened there..
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