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Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Aside from a particular someone who believes Scottie could be a 1A option, he wasn't even a 1B option. People want to sight the "55 win team" as if Scottie took trash to new heights or something....this was a 3-PEAT team with a GOAT coach in a proven system with now-experienced players in BJ Armstrong and Horace Grant. These guys had been together for a long time and proven themselves on the biggest stage. Scottie literally didn't do whole lot better than he did any other year, his team simply stepped to the plate as well. Scottie is getting far too much credit.
Just look at Phil's stance on the issue...Toni Kukoc made 4 game winners for the Bulls in 1994, one of them in the Knicks series. Phil drew up a play for Kukoc, which showed Phil's confidence in Scottie's "#1 option" abilities.....Scottie cried and took a seat, that's right....Took a seat in a heated and critical playoff game.... NO EXCUSES for that....that's your best player abandoning your team.
Let's not ignore the additions the Bulls made...Pete Myers was a SOLID defender, which this Bulls team won on defense, so he was an excellent fit on ONE SIDE of the ball. Throw in Europe's best player at the time in Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, and Luc Longley ( players who later would prove their worth with a 3-PEAT of their own), and you still have a formidable team, even minus the game's best all-time player. Is it really surprising at all?
Scottie was great, but looked better simply cuz he wasn't overshadowed on the floor. His team deserves just as much credit for stepping up as he did. BJ and Horace were having all-star seasons. Kukoc was clutch, and the role players did what they do. Does their success make Scottie a "#1 option", No....even Phil himself didn't believe it.
Too many fools are comparing them to the 1993 Bulls....try comparing them to the 1992 team and see what you get, cuz the 1993 Bulls were WORN OUT. Without Jordan, there wasn't that pressure to succeed where anything less than a championship would be failure. No one expected one, and it didn't happen. A second round exit to a short-handed Knicks squad isn't a championship no matter how you want to slice it.
The Bulls in 1992 won 67 games to 57 in 1993....with essentially the same team, same core. So were they really that much worse or no??? Now take a look at the Bulls in 1995 when you strip away the core from the original 3-PEAT. 34-31. Not impressive.
Giving Scottie all the credit is STUPID, when he had much to work with. Look what he did when he went to Houston, and then to the Blazers....NUFF SAID. Scottie was a great #2, but he was NEVER a #1 option player, and never showed he could be. He didn't put crappy teams on his back for stretches, he's never had a crappy team
Last edited by bwink23; 03-09-2012 at 12:50 PM.
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Bringer of Rain
Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Jordan stans once again ruining basketball 1 post at a time...
F' ing sad how you throw Pippen under the bus to try to prop up MJ..
Pippen was a top 3 player of the 90's and one of the best allaround players in NBA History...
still made the Bull's title contenders with the "baldheaded Dominique Wilkins around"
MJ never had a winning season and was 1 - 10 in the playoff's without Pippen
deal wit it
next
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
U dumb brah? Or is u mad brah?
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by ganja0710
U dumb brah? Or is u mad brah?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeX9BXnD6D4
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lol @ using pete myers to strenghten argument.
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Excellent post. MJ da gawd made Pippen.
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by iamgine
lol @ using pete myers to strenghten argument.
Was he the ONLY guy used???
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by bwink23
Was he the ONLY guy used???
was he?
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by iamgine
was he?
"Let's not ignore the additions the Bulls made...Pete Myers was a SOLID defender, which this Bulls team won on defense, so he was an excellent fit on ONE SIDE of the ball. Throw in Europe's best player at the time in Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, and Luc Longley ( players who later would prove their worth with a 3-PEAT of their own), and you still have a formidable team, even minus the game's best all-time player. Is it really surprising at all?"
You can sit down now....
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National High School Star
Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by AlphaWolf24
Jordan stans once again ruining basketball 1 post at a time...
F' ing sad how you throw Pippen under the bus to try to prop up MJ..
Pippen was a top 3 player of the 90's and one of the best allaround players in NBA History...
still made the Bull's title contenders with the "baldheaded Dominique Wilkins around"
MJ never had a winning season and was 1 - 10 in the playoff's without Pippen
deal wit it
next
Not only do they throw a 1st ballot HOF'er like Pippen under the bus they embarrassingly try to talk up a CBA journeyman Pete 'griffin' Myers who replaced MJ
Just imagine how ugly the 2009/10 Lakers would have been had the Lakers replaced Kobe with Smush Parker or a lesser D League player? A Smush Parker/ Derek Fisher backcourt would have gotten ugly
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by 32jazz
The Bulls went 3-7 without PIPPEN(6-4 or 7-3 adjustment) & Grant missed 12 games as well so the Bulls of 94 win possibly 60 games at least or more without injured Pippen(plus Grant).
You know MJ fans are desperate when they try to talk up a CBA journeyman like Pete 'friggin ' Myers
As well as shaky rookie like Kukoc who shot 27% from 3 & about 41% overall
Kukoc was so great in his rookie season that Phil cut his minutes to about 19 mpg for the playoffs.
The intellectual dishonesty with team '95 when the Bulls lost Grant as well to Orlando.
34-31? . How well did MJ do without both Pippen & Grant? That would be a fairer assessment with the 95 team .
MJ worshippers are strange in that they talk up CBA jorneymen like Pete 'friggin' Myers & shaky rookies like Kukoc (who was reduced to 18 mpg in postseason) & then criticize a 1st ballot HOF teammates like Pippen?
the Bulls were 1-3 without Jordan in 1993, "adjust" that one.... .....also 0-2 in 1992, for a total of 1-5 without MJ....Please ADJUST.
Grant gone = already mentioned, you = FAIL.
Pete Myers, with additions already mentioned, you =
"Shaky" Kukoc won 4 games for the Bulls, including a playoff one in which Phil had more confidence in his "shakiness" than Scottie Pippen.....
Moving along.
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by bwink23
"Let's not ignore the additions the Bulls made...Pete Myers was a SOLID defender, which this Bulls team won on defense, so he was an excellent fit on ONE SIDE of the ball. Throw in Europe's best player at the time in Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, and Luc Longley ( players who later would prove their worth with a 3-PEAT of their own), and you still have a formidable team, even minus the game's best all-time player. Is it really surprising at all?"
that's it?
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
Originally Posted by iamgine
that's it?
4 more players that earned 3 rings on a team with the NBA's ALL-TIME record....what more you want ??
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Re: Scottie Pippen was NOT a 1B option
This shit is funny. Can alpha explain wat pip did in 88-90 but choke and get owned by pistons. Why are people acting like 91 pippen is has gud has 94 pippe n and grant.
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