Gervin wants an asterisk on Klay's record quarter

[Dr.J4ever]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...033207475.html

Excerpt:

For instance, these two players should not be criticized for their relationship to the three-point shot when they are both products of their era. Gervin's scoring record came the season before the NBA instituted the three-point line, but he did play 11 seasons over his combined ABA and NBA career during which the shot was legal. Over that time, he 27.1 percent from beyond the arc (122-of-451), never making more than 32 in a season or three in a single game. Still, Gervin came of basketball age at a time when the three-point shot was not a particularly common weapon in the sport. By contrast, Thompson has only known a basketball culture that values the triple, to the point where he could tailor his career to his shooting skills from a very early age. In short, Gervin can bring up how the three aided Thompson if he wants, but that would be like criticizing Gervin for taking advantage of holes in '70s defensive strategy. Players learn strengths based on what they have experienced in hundreds of games.

Another:

What Gervin doesn't mention, but what David Thompson did in a 2013 article for NBA.com, is that Gervin scored his 63 points on 23-of-49 shooting from the floor, a solid but by no means incendiary mark of efficiency. In other words, his record was the product of a specific effort to beat Thompson. It could be said that Klay Thompson's performance on Friday came in the flow of the game and stands out as a seemingly random occurrence not dependent on chasing some other total. From that perspective, Klay's 37-point quarter is purer than that of the Iceman.

Agree or disagree?

[navy]

No asterisk, but yes context should be acknowledge when talking about records.

[UK2K]

He has a point.

And when the 4 point line comes into play, the players may not adjust immediately, but soon you'll have guys bombing from there too.

[CavaliersFTW]

lol, i love the "holes in defensive strategy" slight the journalist mentions.

What holes in strategy?" The game was played at the highest level possible in the NBA and yes even the ABA given the talent and rules of every era. If there's players exploiting a particular thing in a particular era it's because of rules and individual abilities not lack of strategy (be it defense or offense). Coaches and players knew X's and O's very well they weren't retarded, they probed for weaknesses on offense and patched them on defense, they knew how to best play the game.

[Magic731]

Who cares. He sounds salty that his record was broken. There is no asterisk. Klay did it completely within the rules, that's all there is to it. Is it as impressive as Gervin's effort? Maybe not but that's not the point. Klay has the record and I assume he will for a long time.

[G0ATbe]

Klays era>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gervins era.

If anything Gervins record should have had an asterisk.

[niko]

He was joking.

[Kblaze8855]

Gervin wasnt gonna be shooting threes anyway. A guy like Pistol Pete has a bigger case for a thing like this. You can see he had 3 point range. Only took 15 in his career and made 10. Only played like 40 games with the line.

Anyway...im sure the 3 lets guys who are streaky pile up points faster...but it also created a generation of people who settle for shots they tend to miss so often their games dont develop in ways that let them get a good shot under durress.

Plus you have athletic gods like Rose, Westbrook, and Baron Davis just pull up for 4-5 threes in a half at times as if they didnt notice they can blow past everyone who ever guarded them.

How many otherwise layups or made pullup jumpers have been thrown away....and the points from possible FTs...by potentially great slashers taking shots anyone can get?

Russell Westbrook in the 80s west where he might just take 50 threes all year and run out on every break?

Russell might have put up 32/8/6 one of those years.

Imagine Russell vs the Nuggets trying to put up 120. Or the later Nuggets who gave up 130 a game? Warriors giving up 120?

The Nuggets gave up 194 points one preseason game.

They gave up 112 points one half.

The Suns gave them 186 the next night.

First 7 games of the season they allowed 160+ three times. In 7 games. They allowed 173 to the Suns who gave them 107 in the first half.

They played a game vs the Warriors where...and im 100% serious...there were almost 200 fast break points between the teams. Final score was like 160-155. In regulation.

Put Westbrook in that conference without him growing up shooting threes....

An all out attacking Westbrook vs teams that dont mind letting you run even on made baskets?

He might have a 30 point quarter himself.

[SugarHill]

Klays era>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gervins era.

If anything Gervins record should have had an asterisk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb9HcOHXRzw

7:20 - 8:50



laz/cavs check it out

[Breezy]

I have a question. How many of Gervin's 33 came at the free throw line?

However even if it is Zero, Klay Still had a more impressive quarter. Hitting 9 3's in a row and going 13 for 13 is (even considering era's) a greater feat.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Then I want an asterisk next to any blocks/rebounds accumulated before the 3 point line was introduced.

[CavaliersFTW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb9HcOHXRzw

7:20 - 8:50



laz/cavs check it out

9:00

"I guarantee you a thousand years ago almost everybody raped. You know like really primitive man."

C'mon those guys are clueless who gives a shit what they think about Wilt Chamberlain

[SugarHill]

9:00

"I guarantee you a thousand years ago almost everybody raped. You know like really primitive man."

C'mon those guys are clueless who gives a shit what they think about Wilt Chamberlain

They're stand up comedians. They're not serious lol

[CavaliersFTW]

They're stand up comedians. They're not serious lol

Literally they sounded like they post on ISH though

[comerb]

I don't think they even played defense in the 70s