Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
I’ve been meaning to ask you if it’s a bit of a relief to get a young team with hopeful future stars to root for again. On one hand there’s the:
....aspect of it.
On the other....You get the team to yourself again without the bandwagon support which is always nice. You already got to celebrate a title so there was really nothing else to do but watch them get close maybe a couple more times.
You feel like dumping love as well and straight bottoming out?
You see any value in a 46 win season?
For LeBron's legacy in Cleveland, I was disappointed he left and ONLY for that reason. You remember Bird in Celtics Green, Magic in Puple/Gold, MJ in Bulls Red, etc. I wanted that for LeBron in Cleveland considering he is the most iconic athlete of his generation and he has spent 11 years in Cleveland.
With that out of the way, I was 100% ready to move on. It is really not that much fun having LeBron James on your basketball team. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the title in 2016 and it was awesome. The second half of the 2015 and 2016 regular seasons were both fun.
But, the last two regular seasons were straight-up agonizing. It was almost constant discention, upheaval, drama, passive aggressive nonsense and the never-ending rumors about LeBron's departure. As a Cleveland fan, I can tell you we've never had a season with LeBron where we didn't constantly hear about him possibly leaving, starting around 2005 or so.
That wears on you as a fan and I know it has to wear on teammates, coaches, front offices, etc.
Last season was miserable for me. For the first time in a long time, I avoided watching some games because they were so incredibly -- not fun. The playoffs were similar besides the Raptors series.
We were to the point where the grind was just overcoming any joy that should come with having the best player in the world on your team.
Meanwhile, one of my best experiences as a Cavs fan -- strictly from an enjoyment standpoint was 2011-13 after we drafted Kyrie and then got Waiters, Tristan, etc.
Rebuilding with a young team and watching them grow together is underrated if you're a diehard NBA fan and, frankly, being a title contender every year for 4 straight years is a bit overrated, simply from a fan point-of-view. The expectations and weight (especially when you have LeBron) makes it tense when it should be exciting.
If it were up to me, I'd extend KLove. Getting those kinds of free agents haven't happened often in the franchise's history. He is still only 29 and I think having a team where he is the 1st/2nd option and the clear-cut leader could lead to him being a great player once again.
I may be projecting, but I think Love would be fine on a younger team away from the microscope. He got his championship and he has now been to The Finals four straight times. He has been the one guy through this whole thing that never complained, always seemed to put team first and consistently talked about how much he loved playing in Cleveland.
The other thing is this... the Cavs are going to have a massive amount of salary coming off the books in the 1-2 years. They'll have room to sign max players or maybe even several high salary guys by next year if they want it (by trading expiring contracts).
So, we have a nice mix of veterans in Love, Hood, Hill, Korver, Tristan, Frye and young guys with potential in Sexton, Osman Nance and Zizic. Even Jordan Clarkson has some skill if he can just learn to tone it down with the shot-jacking and learn how to play under control.
For the Eastern Conference, that is not a bad team. Throw in all of the cap room we have coming... I actually think as the roster is currently constructed, we are better positioned to try and do a relatively quick rebuild than an extended tank.
Plus, you are never getting the true Kevin Love value if you trade him right now. If we can extend him and he starts averaging 23/13 (very possible), his trade value would increase exponentially if we want to explore that at some point. But, right now, I think I'd prefer him to retire a Cavalier. I just have tons of respect for that guy.
Yeah man... I'm jacked for this season. Should be a lot of fun for the first time in a while.