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Old 11-18-2019, 12:28 AM   #1
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Default Harden is averaging almost 40ppg

And some scrubs are getting their numbers.

Points mostly end up at 120 to 130 and so on per game on opposing teams

ATG defense is being played right now in the NBA.
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:20 AM   #2
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Default Re: Harden is averaging almost 40ppg

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MJ wouldn't face this kind of rim protection today, so he'd average 45 at least:






MJ wouldn't have to score in tight spaces like this today, so he'd average 45+






Today's game would be wide open and look more like this (except without the big waiting under rim):







MJ wouldn't need all the contested shot-making that made him great - it's just open threes and layups in today's beginner version of the game (spacing, hands-off defense, freedom of movement, no paint camping, flagrant fouls)

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Old 11-18-2019, 01:24 AM   #3
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Mmm flagrant ghouls
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:27 AM   #4
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NBA is so atrocious to watch right now. Its now a game of who shoots better at 3s and open lane.
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:45 AM   #5
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Harden >> MJ

I've seen enough
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:55 AM   #6
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Default Re: Harden is averaging almost 40ppg

MJ didn’t have a 3pt shot in his offensive arsenal therefore Harden>>MJ
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Old 11-18-2019, 01:57 AM   #7
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Harden shoots 40 FTs a game doe
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:00 AM   #8
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Default Re: Harden is averaging almost 40ppg

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Originally Posted by Angel Face
And some scrubs are getting their numbers.

Points mostly end up at 120 to 130 and so on per game on opposing teams

ATG defense is being played right now in the NBA.
Better athletes. And better 3 points shooting.
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:11 AM   #9
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One of the GOAT offensive players
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:12 AM   #10
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Appreciate harden, his step back is like a top 10 go to move of all time. Blame previous eras for not realizing how valuable the 3 is
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:12 AM   #11
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MJ didn’t have a 3pt shot in his offensive arsenal therefore Harden>>MJ
So why did he shoot better in the 1993 playoffs than Kawhi shot in the 2019 playoffs?

You forget that MJ's shot 39% on nearly 4 attempts in the 93' playoffs... He shot well in 1992 too, and shot 35.2% for the 85-93' playoffs on 2.2 attempts

So MJ had the 3-point shot - but just never used it

Btw, Harden is better at threes than mj/kawhi, but mj is better at literally everything else, so mj >>
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:14 AM   #12
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just imagine if he had a shortened 3pt line with your typical Hornacek's guarding him nightly



toss in a splash of illegal defense



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Old 11-18-2019, 02:24 AM   #13
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just imagine if he had a shortened 3pt line with your typical Hornacek's guarding him nightly



toss in a splash of illegal defense



good god
Harden wouldn't be shit without teammates spreading the floor with 30 threes a game

He'd be nothing if his teammates attempted basically zero threes a game and there was no spacing like MJ's teammates in 1987

Seriously, how many ppg for Harden if he has no spacing and hand-checking.... It's night and day obviously... A totally different sport
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:30 AM   #14
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Harden wouldn't be shit without teammates spreading the floor with 30 threes a game

He'd be nothing if his teammates attempted basically zero threes a game and there was no spacing like MJ's teammates in 1987

Seriously, how many ppg for Harden if he has no spacing and hand-checking.... It's night and day obviously... A totally different sport
He was without 4 starters last game you dunce. Harden has always done more with less than MJ
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:31 AM   #15
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He was without 4 starters last game you dunce. Harden has always done more with less than MJ
Who cares - Harden wouldn't be shit without teammates spreading the floor with 30 threes a game

He'd be nothing if his teammates attempted basically zero threes a game and there was no spacing like MJ's teammates in 1987

Seriously, how many ppg for Harden if he has no spacing and hand-checking.... It's night and day obviously... A totally different sport
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