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Believeland
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Who cares? He sure as hell wouldn't be winning two championships with Durant.
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kobeee!!
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
One has a ring thanks to Bron, the other...
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by JerryWest
He sure as hell wouldn't be winning two championships with Durant.
You don't know that - Durant never got to team-hop and collude.. But give Durant a chance to team-hop so he can play with 2 all-stars and top players at their position, and he wins 2 rings too.
Give ANY superstar the chance to team-hop so they can play with 2 top players at their position, and they win 2 rings.. They might win more than 2 rings.. Lebron was only 2/4 in Miami doing this.
But Lebron is the only team-hopper, so he's the one with a couple rings.. Those are the facts.
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Last edited by 3ball; 06-29-2015 at 07:22 AM.
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MH!
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by 3ball
You don't know that - Durant never got to team-hop and collude.. Give Durant a chance to collude and team-hop so he can play with 2 all-stars, and he wins 2 rings too.
Give ANY superstar the chance to team-hop so they can play with 2 top players at their position, and they win 2 rings.
They might win more than 2 rings - Lebron's 2/4 in Miami is an underachievement considering the team-hopping to play with 2 all-stars and top 3 players at their position.. Any other star player in his position might have done better.
The '12 Thunder has 2 All-Star's, 2 All-NBA players, 6th MOY, All-D player, Scoring champ, and the blocks leader in KD, Harden, WB, and Ibaka. Another elite defender in Thabo.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by aj1987
The '12 Thunder has 2 All-Star's,
Heat had THREE all-stars, because Lebron colluded.
Don't compare 2 all-stars to 3 all-stars.. that's just dumb are retarded.. never go full retard
Lebron is the only team-hopper, so he's the only one that played with a team of 3 all-stars (and rayray, birdman), so he's the only one with a couple rings.. Those are the facts.
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MH!
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by 3ball
Heat had THREE all-stars, because Lebron colluded.
Don't compare 2 all-stars to 3 all-stars.. that's just dumb are retarded.. never go full retard
2 All-Stars, 2 All-NBA players a 6th MOY, and a All-Def player. You do know that the All-Star award is just a popularity contest, right? KG, KAJ, Shaq, Timmy, and Kobe have more All-Star selections that MJ, FYI.
That Thunder team was stacked AF. He didn't have a reason to leave the team. Just like MJ.
You just went full 3ball, 3ball. Never go full 3ball.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by aj1987
You do know that the All-Star award is just a popularity contest, right? KG, KAJ, Shaq, Timmy, and Kobe have more All-Star selections that MJ, FYI.
Bosh is a 10-time All-Star - he made the All-Star team every season from 2006-2015.. And he was voted in by the coaches every year.
So stop deluding yourself that Bosh was only an all-star due to "popularity".. You're obviously wrong on that, which means you were dumb and delusional to even come to that conclusion... But anything to prop up your underachieving Lebron right?.. He needs it.
Lebron is the only colluder and team-hopper in the entire league.
Accordingly, he went 2/4 in Miami, due to his team-hopping.. ANYONE can team-hop and win rings if they team up with enough talent - and that's what Lebron did.
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MH!
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by 3ball
Bosh is a 10-time All-Star - he made the All-Star team every season from 2006-2015.. And he was voted in by the coaches every year.
So stop deluding yourself that Bosh was only an all-star due to "popularity".. You're obviously wrong on that, which means you were dumb and delusional to even come to that conclusion... But anything to prop up your underachieving Lebron right?.. He needs it.
Lebron is the only colluder and team-hopper in the entire league.
Accordingly, he went 2/4 in Miami, due to his team-hopping.. ANYONE can team-hop and win rings if they team up with enough talent - and that's what Lebron did.
Bosh might just end up with more All-Star selections than MJ. Wade, KD, WB, LeBron, etc. as well. How does that make you feel, 3ball?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by aj1987
Bosh might just end up with more All-Star selections than MJ. Wade, KD, WB, LeBron, etc. as well. How does that make you feel, 3ball?
the fact that you rely on this type of logic proves my point.
lebron's a colluder - the only reason he has ANY championships is because he colluded to play with Wade and Bosh.. period
which any superstar can do.. let durant play with wade and bosh, and he also wins 2 rings.. probably more, because again, bosh plays better alongside durant - durant dominates the ball 28% less, so those touches go to bosh.
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MH!
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by 3ball
the fact that you rely on this type of logic proves my point.
lebron's a colluder - the only reason he has ANY championships is because he colluded to play with Wade and Bosh.. period
Cool story bro.
Kobe Bryant - 17 All-Star selections
MJ - 14
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by aj1987
Cool story bro.
Kobe Bryant - 17 All-Star selections
MJ - 14
you missed the rest of my post.
lebron's a colluder - the only reason he has ANY championships is because he colluded to play with Wade and Bosh.. period
which any superstar can do.. let durant play with wade and bosh, and he also wins 2 rings.. probably more, because again, bosh plays better alongside durant - durant dominates the ball 28% less, so those touches go to bosh.
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Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by 3ball
you missed the rest of my post.
lebron's a colluder - the only reason he has ANY championships is because he colluded to play with Wade and Bosh.. period
which any superstar can do.. let durant play with wade and bosh, and he also wins 2 rings.. probably more, because again, bosh plays better alongside durant - durant dominates the ball 28% less, so those touches go to bosh.
Again, you ****ing imbecile, KD player with the 6th MOY, an All-NBA player, and a All-D player. All-NBA and All-D selections >>> All-Star selections.
KD wouldn't have made it past the Bulls in '11, Celtics in '12, Pacers in '13, and the Spurs in '14. He would've made 2 finals at the most and would've lost in both of them.
Going back to your retarded original topic:
Originally Posted by RRR3
In 2012 when Wade missed 15 games, Bosh averaged ~25/7 with LeBron. How many points do you expect a THIRD option to score, dumbass?
Now stop cherry picking arguments and stop posting as well.
From a different thread:
Are people just being dense? Wade was injured in '12, '13, and '14. Bosh was injured in '12. To that guy who said Bosh doesn't play in the post anymore because of LeBron, Bosh himself said that he doesn't want to play in the post anymore. That he's done "banging in the post". Oh, and 85% of Bosh's shots were jumpshots in '14. 80% in '15. A 5% difference with and without LeBron.
In the 4 years Bosh played with LeBron, he took 13 shots a game in 34 MPG. In the 7 years before that, he took 14.4 shots a game in 37 MPG. A difference of 1.4 FGA while playing with LeBron AND Wade. 20.2/9.4 to 17.3/7.4. Lets all stop pretending that Bosh is anything more than a soft ass jump shooter.
Also, stop acting like Wade's knees with be '09-'11 level if he plays with anyone else. As good as Wade was in the '13 RS, he sucked ass in the first 3 rounds. Wasn't that good in '14 either.
Bosh isn't going to become tougher, Wade's knees aren't gonna heal, or Shitmers isn't gonna gain 50 IQ points just by playing with someone else.
In short, Bosh's PPG dropped a whooping 3 points along with 3 MPG. This for a guy playing along side two players who need over 15 shots a game is pretty good. Not to mention his shot attempts dropped by a marginal amount as well, while going from being the #1 option to the #3 option.
Here's Bosh saying that he doesn't like playing in the post.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-...t-bang-anymore
Do you want to dismiss what Bosh himself said?
Last edited by aj1987; 06-29-2015 at 07:59 AM.
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MH!
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by 3ball
but due to Lebron's collusion, he had an extra nugget that durant didn't have: a 10-time All-Star and 20/10 player in Bosh..
Except, KD had the 6th MOY and All-D first team player (who also led the league in blocks, BTW) that year.
Originally Posted by 3ball
you missed the rest of my post.
lebron's a colluder - the only reason he has ANY championships is because he colluded to play with Wade and Bosh.. period
which any superstar can do.. let durant play with wade and bosh, and he also wins 2 rings.. probably more, because again, bosh plays better alongside durant - durant dominates the ball 28% less, so those touches go to bosh.
Again, you ****ing imbecile, KD player with the 6th MOY, an All-NBA player, and a All-D player. All-NBA and All-D selections >>> All-Star selections.
KD wouldn't have made it past the Bulls in '11, Celtics in '12, Pacers in '13, and the Spurs in '14. He would've made 2 finals at the most and would've lost in both of them.
Going back to your retarded original topic:
Originally Posted by RRR3
In 2012 when Wade missed 15 games, Bosh averaged ~25/7 with LeBron. How many points do you expect a THIRD option to score, dumbass?
Now stop cherry picking arguments and stop posting as well.
From a different thread:
Are people just being dense? Wade was injured in '12, '13, and '14. Bosh was injured in '12. To that guy who said Bosh doesn't play in the post anymore because of LeBron, Bosh himself said that he doesn't want to play in the post anymore. That he's done "banging in the post". Oh, and 85% of Bosh's shots were jumpshots in '14. 80% in '15. A 5% difference with and without LeBron.
In the 4 years Bosh played with LeBron, he took 13 shots a game in 34 MPG. In the 7 years before that, he took 14.4 shots a game in 37 MPG. A difference of 1.4 FGA while playing with LeBron AND Wade. 20.2/9.4 to 17.3/7.4. Lets all stop pretending that Bosh is anything more than a soft ass jump shooter.
Also, stop acting like Wade's knees with be '09-'11 level if he plays with anyone else. As good as Wade was in the '13 RS, he sucked ass in the first 3 rounds. Wasn't that good in '14 either.
Bosh isn't going to become tougher, Wade's knees aren't gonna heal, or Shitmers isn't gonna gain 50 IQ points just by playing with someone else.
In short, Bosh's PPG dropped a whooping 3 points along with 3 MPG. This for a guy playing along side two players who need over 15 shots a game is pretty good. Not to mention his shot attempts dropped by a marginal amount as well, while going from being the #1 option to the #3 option.
Here's Bosh saying that he doesn't like playing in the post.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-...t-bang-anymore
Do you want to dismiss what Bosh himself said?
Hold his MASSIVE L, 3ball.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Would Bosh Play Better With Durant?
Originally Posted by aj1987
Do you want to dismiss what Bosh himself said?
24/12 without Lebron.
16/6 with Lebron.
You do the math
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