What does Lebron have to do to surpass Kobe?

[zoom17]

Lebron>Kobe

[sportjames23]

already ahead of kobe. another ring or two, and lebron will firmly cemented as GOAT.

russell will be the only one with a legitimate argument, because 11 rings.....is 11 rings.

[Hoopz2332]

that being said lebron would need atleast 3 legit rings in cleveland to come close to kobe

which would equal their actual totals to 5 anyway. so with or without prestige its 3 more rings

GTFO Lebron is better now but one more ring/finals MVP would end the debate for good. Lebron already dwarfs KObe plus lets be real, Kobe will get any real credit for being a 2nd fiddle for his first 3 titles

[Hoopz2332]

Just to show how much better LBJ has been to KObe. I layed this ether down for yall last year and the stats have to be adjusted but the point still stands..




[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]I keep hearing/reading about this Kobe "The Killer" myth when people make comparisons between the similarities and differences between him, Jordan and lebron but it's flatout BS! The numbers just don't back up Kobe's rep. Let's take a look at some numbers..

Playoff Numbers


KObe

25.6 ppg 45 FG% on 21 FGA

5 rbs


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lebron

28.1 ppg 47 FG% on 20 FGa

9 rbs

7 ast


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Jordan

33.4 ppg 49 FG% on 25 FGA

6 rbs

6 ast







Clutch numbers in the playoffs

Playoff clutch time

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updated



http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ch-think-again


I thought KObe was a "killer"?



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Playoff elimination games


Michael Jordan Elimination Game Averages:

31.3 PPG,

7.9 RPG,

7.0 APG,

2.1 SPG,

1.0 BPG,

4.2 TOPG,

45.8 FG%,

33.3 3P%,

75.7 FT%


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LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

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Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%


Where is KObe "the killer" at in elimination games?


Straight up game 7's or 5's

Michael Jordan G7 Stats:

36.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.0 TOPG, 48.9 FG%, 33.3 FG%, 79.7 FT%

-W/out Game 5

[Hoopz2332]

Kobe's records






Perception (what people think they see) vs Reality (what stats actually support)

[Hoopz2332]

[Nash]

Lebron will go down as the better player, he already has more individual accolades than Kobe. And if you count rings as part of individual accolades, they are tied with Lebron still not 30 years old.

And all of this is without all the stats that prove that Lebron > Kobe.

[oti]

He has no argument vs Kobe , he will always be considered a BETA , a guy who chose the easy way to win championships. End of story.

[fiddy]

Kobe's records

5>2

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe could never match the mental capacity it takes to check yourself out of a Finals game with 8 minutes left to go on the clock. Especially after embarrassing your entire team by going through steroid withdrawal in game 1. It takes a true GOAT to literally get carried off the court by Teammates from roid dehydration .

With warmest regards , an asshole.

[Calabis]

Quit jumping ship everytime adversity sets in

[Hoopz2332]

5>2

as I said, this is how Kobe's first 3 titles will always be seen




YOU GETS NO CREDIT WHEN YOU DONT GET THE FINALS MVP!

[Paul George 24]

as I said, this is how Kobe's first 3 titles will always be seen




YOU GETS NO CREDIT WHEN YOU DONT GET THE FINALS MVP!

d wade carry lebron

[Encre92]

as I said, this is how Kobe's first 3 titles will always be seen




YOU GETS NO CREDIT WHEN YOU DONT GET THE FINALS MVP!

[tmacattack33]

Damn, I thought somebody had bumped this thread up from 2009.

Lebron passed Kobe in 2012.