what makes a player a thug?

[NugzFan]

Haha, judging by your reactions to whenever a nuggets player or the nuggets as a team are mentioned, I'd say that this does bother you.

no your ignorance doesnt bother me.

simply saying 'anyone on denver is a thug!' doesnt mean anything except that you dont know the answer and wanted to look stupid...you are just a hater, possibly bordering on troll. ive seen a million fans like you...

My guess is that someone has called a nugg a thug and you've caught feelings and started this thread. Am I wrong, because I don't think so.

the nuggets have been called thugs a million times...i dont give a ****. i was just wondering what makes a player a thug.

you fail. again.

[NuggetsFan]

Kinda hard to describe a thug. I've always considered a criminal to be a "thug" someone who doesn't follow the law on a consistent basis(we've all made a few mistakes).


Having a tatoo or getting in a fight isn't really that thuggish. Maybe if you consistently fighting then it'd be different.


I guess who you associate with could also be considered but even then just because your friends with a guy that doesn't make good life style choices it shouldn't affect you as long as your not making the same choices as him.

[crisoner]

IMO all the thugs is playing hockey in the NHL



But they white boys so that's why they get a pass?

[Kebab Stall]

no your ignorance doesnt bother me.

simply saying 'anyone on denver is a thug!' doesnt mean anything except that you dont know the answer and wanted to look stupid...you are just a hater, possibly bordering on troll. ive seen a million fans like you...



the nuggets have been called thugs a million times...i dont give a ****. i was just wondering what makes a player a thug.

you fail. again.

You're calling me a troll, yet you're the one going around calling people trolls and posting stupid pictures when they don't agree with you. Yeah, I'm the troll.

This is why I rarely post in the main forum anymore. It's full of morons like you who catch feelings whenever someone doesn't agree with you or says something you don't want to hear. You idiots are all the same, the main forum is just a breeding ground for you morons.

I, and the other poster who made similar comment to mine, were both joking (mainly because you're a nugs fan and hope you would get the joke, obviously not), yet you got upset from both of them and proceed to make stupid 'fail' comments.

*waits for 'fail' comment/picture*

[kentatm]

something like this I think

[kentatm]

IMO all the thugs is playing hockey in the NHL



But they white boys so that's why they get a pass?

Hockey doesnt call them thugs. They are goons.

[32jazz]

Or Bertuzzi crippling Steve Moore. Or Mcsorely almost taking Brashears head off. Or any play from any shift the Broadstreet bully flyers were on the ice. I love the NHL...but the most vicious incidents in NBA history would barely warrant a 10 minute major in most hockey games. And yet hockey players seem to get in far less trouble off the court than most other pro athletes...must be something about getting their aggression out in game.

To answer the OP I always thought of a 'THUG' as one who preyed upon/victimized other honest citizens. Not how they look(race/tattoos) or talk. The overwhelming majority of NBA players live crime free lives like most of us do.


Thug has become something of an euphenism that I see only directed at certain players/Leagues.

Most NBA players I see get into petty 'trouble' over stuff like marijuana & other petty crimes that I could care less about & because it is a bit more popular than Hockey the media runs with every story.

I have not seen many 'ACTIVE' NBA players convicted of any serious crimes & I doubt if we can find many who were convicted of conspiracy to murder or Homicide like Mike Danton(?) or Mactavish(?) of the NHL.

No one can really name me any 'active'(or active when they were convicted) NBA players who were convicted of anything as serious as those two NHL Players I mentioned yet they get the bad rap.

The overwhelming majority of NBA players live uneventful(criminally speaking lives) & it's only a biased 'perception' that is fueling this 'thug' talk/euphenism.

[Kblaze8855]

I dont think there are any current "thugs" in the NBA. NBa players dont do real harm. The most solid punches ive seen an NBA player throw in the last 20 years was two from 6'7'' 270 Ron Artet to a fat ball boy who also got stuck by JO and was on his feet in seconds looking fine. Even "tough" nba players arent really hurting anyone outise of hard fouls. And being Danny Fortson isnt being a thug.


Here is a very imcomplete list of NBA player arrests....


NAME
CHARGE
EDUCATION
AGE WHEN ARRESTED


SEASON IN NBA WHEN ARRESTED

Greg “Cadillac” Anderson
Possession of Cocaine and Intent to Distribute
4 Years of College
33
10th

Gilbert Arenas
Unlawful Possession of Firearm
2 Years of College
21
3rd

Darrell Armstrong
Battery of Female Police Officer
4 Years of College
35
10th

Ron Artest
Assault and Battery
2 Years of College
25
6th

Charles Barkley
Disorderly Conduct
4 Years of College
28
8th

Erick Barkley
Trespass
4 Years of College
23
2nd

Tony Battie
Battery of Police Officer
3 Years of College
23
2nd

Mookie Blaylock
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
30
7th

Kobe Bryant
Sexual Assault
0 Years of College
24
7th

Rodney Buford
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
22
1st

Jason Caffey
Assault Causing Bodily Harm
4 Years of College
30
8th

Marcus Camby
Marijuana Possession
3 Years of College
23
2nd

Sam Cassell
Assault Causing Bodily Harm
4 Years of College
33
11th

Keon Clark
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
27
5th

Derrick Coleman
Driving While Under the Influence
4 Years of College
35
13th

Tony Dumas
Assault on Pregnant Woman
4 Years of College
23
2nd

Richard Dumas
Crack Cocaine Possession
3 Years of College
29
3rd (was retired)

Dale Ellis (1)
Domestic-Violence Assault and Resisting Arrest
4 Years of College
29
7th

Dale Ellis (2)
Domestic-Violence Assault
4 Years of College
41
17th (was retired)

Marcus Fizer
Unlawful Possession of Firearm
3 Years of College
24
3rd

Joe Forte (1)
Marijuana Possession and Unlawful Possession of Firearm
2 Years of College
23
2nd

Joe Forte (2)
Driving While Under the Influence
2 Years of College
23
2nd

Steve Francis
Driving While Under the Influence
3 Years of College
23
3rd

Gary Grant (1)
Assault, Battery, and Disorderly Conduct
4 Years of College
35
12th

Gary Grant (2)
Drunk Driving
4 Years of College
36
13th

Eddie Griffin (1)
Marijuana Possession
1 Year of College
21
3rd

Eddie Griffin (2)
Assault with a Deadly Weapon
1 Year of College
21
3rd

Ed Gray
Marijuana Possession and Driving Under the Influence
4 Years of College
24
2nd

Darvin Ham
Battery of Wife
3 Years of College
28
5th

David Harrison
Assault and Battery
3 Years of College
22
1st

Alan Henderson
Unlawful Possession of Firearm
4 Years of College
32
11th

Dennis Hopson
Domestic Violence
4 Years of College
35
5th (was retired)

Zydrunas Illgauskas
Drunk Driving
NA (European Pro till age 22)
27
5th

Allen Iverson (1)
Marijuana Possession and Unlawful Possession of Firearm
2 Years of College
22
2nd

Allen Iverson (2)
Assault
2 Years of College
27
7th

Stephen Jackson
Assault and Battery
1 Year of College
26
5th

Anthony Johnson
Assault and Battery
4 Years of College
30
8th

Dennis Johnson
Assault and Battery
4 Years of College
43
14th (was retired)

Shawn Kemp
Drug Possession and Unlawful Possession of Firearm
1 Year of College
35
14th (was retired)

Jason Kidd
Domestic Abuse
2 Years of College
27
7th

Voshon Lenard
Reckless Endangerment and Illegal Use of Firearm
4 Years of College
27
6th

Brad Lohaus
Domestic Assault and Felony Theft
4 Years of College
40
11th (was retired)

Sam Mack
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
29
6th

Anthony Mason
Battery on Police Officer
4 Years of College
33
10th

Vernon Maxwell (1)
Unlawful Possession of Firearm
4 Years of College
29
7th

Vernon Maxwell (2)
Drug Possession
4 Years of College
30
8th

Vernon Maxwell (3)
Failing to Pay Child Support
4 Years of College
34
12th

Roshown McLeod
Battery of Pregnant Woman
4 Years of College
24
2nd

Terrance Morris
Driving with a Suspended License
4 Years of College
23
1st

Lee Nailon
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
25
1st

Tyrone Nesby
Battery
4 Years of College
26
4th

Michael Olowokandi (1)
Cohabitant Abuse, Robbery, and False Imprisonment
3 Years of College
26
4th

Michael Olowokandi (2)
Disorderly Conduct and Trespass
3 Years of College
29
7th

Jermaine O’Neal
Assault and Battery
0 Years of College
26
9th

Chris Porter
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
23
1st

Vitaly Potapenko
Disorderly Conduct
2 Years of College
24
4th

Robert Parrish
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
38
21st (was retired)

Ruben Patterson (1)
Assault
4 Years of College
25
2nd

Ruben Patterson (2)
Attempted Rape
4 Years of College
26
3rd

Ruben Patterson (3)
Assault of Spouse
4 Years of College
28
5th

Gary Payton
Driving While Under the Influence
4 Years of College
36
15th

Scottie Pippen
Battery of Woman
4 Years of College
29
8th

Olden Polynice (1)
Assault
3 Years of College
32
10th

Olden Polynice (2)
Impersonating a Police Officer and Disorderly Conduct
3 Years of College
36
13th

Olden Polynice (3)
Assault
3 Years of College
37
14th

Zach Randolph
Driving While Under the Influence
1 Year of College
22
3rd

Eldrige Recasner
Assault
4 Years of College
32
6th

Jason Richardson
Domestic Violence
2 Years of College
22
2nd

Isaiah “JR” Rider
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
25
4th

Cliff Robinson (1)
Marijuana Possession
3 Years of College
31
9th

Cliff Robinson (2)
Marijuana Possession
3 Years of College
34
12th

Glenn Robinson (1)
Disorderly Intoxication
3 Years of College
27
6th

Glenn Robinson (2)
Battery and Unlawful Possession of Firearm
3 Years of College
29
8th

Dennis Rodman (1)
Battery
4 Years of College
38
14th

Dennis Rodman (2)
Obstruction of Justice
4 Years of College
41
14th (was retired)

Dwayne Schintzius
Driving While Under the Influence
4 Years of College
35
8th (was retired)

Charles Smith
Vehicular Homicide and Driving Under the Influence
4 Years of College
23
2nd

Leon Smith
Criminal Mischief
0 Years of College
19
1st

Michael Smith
Assault and Drunk Driving
4 Years of College
29
8th

Latrell Sprewell
Driving With a Suspended License
4 Years of College
32
11th

Jerry Stackhouse
Assault
2 Years of College
28
8th

DeShawn Stevenson
Statutory Rape
0 Years of College
20
2nd

Rod Strickland (1)
Driving While Under the Influence
3 Years of College
31
10th

Rod Strickland (2)
Unlawful Entry
3 Years of College
33
12th

Damon Stoudamire
Marijuana Possession
4 Years of College
29
8th

Sedale Threatt
Failing to Pay Child Support
4 Years of College
38
14th (was retired)

Kurt Thomas
Assault of Spouse
4 Years of College
29
7th

Robert Traylor
Receiving and Concealing Stolen Property
3 Years of College
23
3rd

Gary Trent
Assault
3 Years of College
22
2nd

John Wallace
Harassment
4 Years of College
23
2nd

Rasheed Wallace
Marijuana Possession
2 Years of College
28
8th

Samaki Walker
Drunk Driving
2 Years of College
27
8th

Chris Webber
Marijuana Possession and Resisting Arrest
2 Years of College
25
6th

Bonzi Wells
Trespass
4 Years of College
25
4th

David Wesley
Reckless Driving
4 Years of College
29
7th

Chris Wilcox
Unlawful Possession of Firearm
2 Years of College
22
3rd

Jason Williams
Reckless Driving
4 Years of College
25
3rd

Jayson Williams
Reckless Manslaughter
4 Years of College
34
9th (was retired)

Sly Williams
Kidnapping, Rape, Sodomy, and Burglary
4 Years of College
44
7th (was retired)

Qyntel Woods (1)
Marijuana Possession
3 Years of College^
22
1st

Qyntel Woods (2)
Animal Cruelty
3 Years of College^
23
3rd





Some real charges in there most of them to people never called anything like a thug.

[32jazz]

IMO all the thugs is playing hockey in the NHL



But they white boys so that's why they get a pass?

Well it does seem that both Mike Danton & Craig Mactavish(?) who were convicted of Conspiracy to Murder & Homicide/manslaughter didn't do much damge to the NHL's image.

Now just think if two 'Active' NBA players were ever convicted of similiar charges. they would be considered a League of murderous 'thugs' ,but the NHL has gotten by.

NBA players just like certain minorities in this country seem to get unfairly painted with a broad brush as if the behavior of a few is the responsibility/fault/norm for the tens of millions in that particular group/race.

[LJJ]

Sly Williams
Kidnapping, Rape, Sodomy, and Burglary
4 Years of College
44
7th (was retired)

Wait what?

[CasterL]

acts like a ****, thinks their hard and shows no class

[kentatm]

Charles Barkley
Disorderly Conduct
4 Years of College
28
8th

is this from when he tossed that guy through a window?

[Kblaze8855]

You kinda can call Sly a few names....

Williams filed bankruptcy shortly after his release from the NBA. Even
bankruptcy didn’t stem the tide of drug and alcohol abuse and domestic
violence Williams was known for. Amid constant rumors of violent tendencies toward women, Williams kept skating by, avoid charges until the fateful day in 2001 when his lifestyle and habits caught up with him.

First, he was charged with the rape and sodomy of a woman who chose to remain anonymous in January 2001. Later that year, he was charged with kidnapping a different woman, holding her for 24 hours, threatening her life with a gun and raping her as well. Prosecutors chose to combine the two cases in a bid to get a conviction with maximum time as a sentence.

In the end, Williams took a plea on the January 2001 rape of the anonymous woman, and went to trial only for the September 2001 kidnapping, assault and rape charges. The judge in the case found him guilty of the crimes and sentenced him to five years in prison. Williams freely admitted his guilt in court.

Williams served three and a half years of his five year sentence. A New Haven reporter interviewed him just before his April 2006 release, and found him to be one of the only prisoners he had ever met who actually considered going to prison to be the best thing that had ever happened to him.

[Geandily]

Why does a charge of rape and kidnapping only get him 5 years? And wait, he said prison was good for him? Like, because it taught him how to make toilet wine and bedpost shanks or because he learned his lesson?

[32jazz]

I dont think there are any current "thugs" in the NBA. NBa players dont do real harm. The most solid punches ive seen an NBA player throw in the last 20 years was two from 6'7'' 270 Ron Artet to a fat ball boy who also got stuck by JO and was on his feet in seconds looking fine. Even "tough" nba players arent really hurting anyone outise of hard fouls. And being Danny Fortson isnt being a thug.


Here is a very imcomplete list of NBA player arrests....


NAME
CHARGE
EDUCATION
AGE WHEN ARRESTED


SEASON IN NBA WHEN ARRESTED

Some real charges in there most of them to people never called anything like a thug.

What's with the mega post & arrests & not the convictions?

Those were arrests mostly for marijuana/drug possession(like I said earlier), disorderly conduct,failure to pay child support,suspended driver's license, unlicensed fireams,DUI,etc.....or retired players, but I am not sure if there were many/any convictions. Hardly a list of 'thuggish' behavior by this society's standards.


No convictions for anything as serious as some NHL players I have seen, but they get painted with a broad brush.