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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Pippen was a definite 1b in the second 3peat

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    always be shame that jordan has dpoy and scottie doesnt
    jordan and kobe also got more alldefense teams then deserved

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Why did the Bulls signed Pete Myers in the off season? A past his Prime Mark Aguirre >>> Pete Myers. He was waived by the Pistons and Clippers in the 1993-94 NBA Season.

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaro Durant
    always be shame that jordan has dpoy and scottie doesnt
    jordan and kobe also got more alldefense teams then deserved

    1990's David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon were superior defenders than Scottie Pippen.

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    1990's David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon were superior defenders than Scottie Pippen.
    also superior to mj..........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    1990's David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon were superior defenders than Scottie Pippen.
    Neither of them won DPOY in 95 when Scottie should have won it, Mutombo did just because he averaged 4bpg. Robinson and Dream were actually not as good defensively in 95 as they had been as they were concentrating on scoring more. As it often happens, the more you concentrate on scoring the less you you concentrate on your defense...that and the fact Robinson was playing with Rodman in 94 and 95. Robinson absolutely deserved the DPOY award in 96 though after Rodman left though and he had to anchor the Spurs alone again though. Mutombo has always been an overrated defensive player though. Sure he can block shots but he never had the foot speed and movement of Olajuwon or Robinson. He wasn't even good enough to lead the league in drating in 95 either, Scottie Pippen did as a SF. Ron Artest and Gary payton get DPOY Awards over much more deserving candidates and Pippen loses out to Mutombo, what a travesty. Mourning is in the same boat as Mutombo too, he was never as close to as good as Olajuwon or Robinson, he just managed to peak after they had fallen off though I still think Robinson had a case for DPOY in the 1998 and 1999 seasons.
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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaro Durant
    always be shame that jordan has dpoy and scottie doesnt
    jordan got more alldefense teams then deserved


    Agree.

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Can someone explain how the Bulls won 67 in 1992 vs. 57 in 1993, with the same team??

    Simply saying "2 less wins" doesn't say CRAP about the differences. If you think it's that simple, you have ZERO explanation for the same Bulls team to drop off 10 wins.

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    Why did the Bulls signed Pete Myers in the off season? A past his Prime Mark Aguirre >>> Pete Myers. He was waived by the Pistons and Clippers in the 1993-94 NBA Season.
    Because Aguirre couldn't' play SG/defense?

    The true question is why didn't the Bulls go after Derek Harper whom their arch nemesis Knicks trade for peanuts mid season? Instead the Bulls stay with Pete Myers while the Knicks improve with Harper.

    Also Pippen missed 10 games in which the Bulls went 3-7. If they reasonably go at least(6-4 or 7-3 with Pippen) the Bulls actually improve over previous season & win about 60 games or better.

    The Bulls Nearly win 60 games without the man(MJ) who 'carried' the Bulls & 'went it alone' being replaced with a CBA journeyman Pete 'friggin'Myers Teammates from previous season also shot collectively better fg% without MJ who supposedly 'made his teammates better'

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    Quote Originally Posted by 32jazz
    Because Aguirre couldn't' play SG/defense?

    The true question is why didn't the Bulls go after Derek Harper whom their arch nemesis Knicks trade for peanuts mid season? Instead the Bulls stay with Pete Myers while the Knicks improve with Harper.

    Also Pippen missed 10 games in which the Bulls went 3-7. If they reasonably go at least(6-4 or 7-3 with Pippen) the Bulls actually improve over previous season & win about 60 games or better.

    The Bulls Nearly win 60 games without the man(MJ) who 'carried' the Bulls & 'went it alone' being replaced with a CBA journeyman Pete 'friggin'Myers Teammates from previous season also shot collectively better fg% without MJ who supposedly 'made his teammates better'
    Go ask grant if. Mj didn't. Make him better and Mj leaving doesnt mean his 7 years of. Helping them goes away idiot. Grant said it himself. Mj instilled that mentality in his teammates. Go check Grant and Pippen in 89. And 90 ECF. Where are they? Tell me how that bulls won 67 gms in 92 then? Ur a dumbass

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwink23
    Can someone explain how the Bulls won 67 in 1992 vs. 57 in 1993, with the same team??

    Simply saying "2 less wins" doesn't say CRAP about the differences. If you think it's that simple, you have ZERO explanation for the same Bulls team to drop off 10 wins.
    Here come the MJ worshippers


    It wasn't just '2 less wins' considering the Bulls went 3-7 without Pippen in 94 & Horace Grant missed 12 games as well.

    With Pippen alone winning at normal rate(6-4 or 7-3 at least) the Bulls win nearly 60 games or more & that's without considering Grant missed a dozen as well.

    So you replace the guy (MJ) who 'carried' the Bulls 'alone' & made them 'better' being replaced with a CBA journeyman 'Pete friggin' Myers & the Bulls nearly win 60 games(possibly more with Grant 12 games missed) & collectively shoot a better fg%

    Just imagine if MJ had been replaced with a legitimate NBA Sg? Magic was (Threatt ) in 92 & so was Bird(Reggie Lewis) in 88(?) when he went down with a back injury.

    There teams had nowhere near the success with legitimate NBA replacements so I could imagine the tragedy of replacing them with CBA journeymen like Pete Myers.

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    Default Re: How the 1994 Chicago Bulls Won 55 Without MJ from Basketball reference

    the reason the bulls won 55 games without MJ:


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    Quote Originally Posted by unbreakable
    the reason the bulls won 55 games without MJ:



    Don't forget Pippen also missed 10 games in '94 in Which the Bulls went 3-7(adjusted they go 6-4 or 7-3 at least & actually win nearly 60 games) plus Grant missed 12.

    With CBA journeyman Pete friggin Myers in the lineup the Bulls actually would have won over 60 games.

    Just imagine if the Bulls had tried to trade for a legitimate NBA SG like Derek Harper who goes to their arch nemesis(Knicks) & help them improve?

    They still take the Knicks to 7 despite all of that & the phantom foul on Pippen.

    Had pippen not missed those 10 games(3-7) they get homecourt advantage over the Knicks as well.

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