Is Horford a dirty player?

[Done_And_Done]

Just before they fell, he had a lock on Delly's arm that looked similar to the way Love dislocated his arm.

That is two incidents in one game. That didn't seem to work, so he elbowed him in the side of the head.

The sample size is still far to meager for me to conclude that Horford classifies as dirty. This was the first time I had ever witnessed him act out in an overly aggressive manner.

[plowking]

Elbowing someone in the head like horford did, with intent, is an auto 1 game suspension in most cases if not more. He displayed clear intent/retaliation, yet no suspension.

Delladova, the 'victim', on the other hand was issued a tech for displaying a 'pattern' of detriemental behavior.


If this was a case of a role player accidently running into a center and getting viciously attacked? Itd be horford gone the rest of the series and delladova with no tech obviously.. but it wasnt that way. And the refs were in tune with the context of the situation. You aren't.

This isn't a prison scheme, where you have a certain amount of strikes. You can't tech a player based on what happened in prior games.
Why are you pretending you know what it was for?

[Bless Mathews]

If any thrown elbow not thrown after a punch or thrown elbow first doesn't deserve a suspension it's this.

Be logical for a minute.

Horford was getting his knee taken out. He reacted.

Punishment is beyond fair.

[Smoke117]

the fact that horford's getting 0 suspension means the refs/league realize why he did what he did. Delly got T'd up on the play.. now why would he get that if it was just him being ripped down to the ground and elbowed by horford ? hmm..

lol...you can't believe he deserved that technical.

[tpols]

This isn't a prison scheme, where you have a certain amount of strikes. You can't tech a player based on what happened in prior games.
Why are you pretending you know what it was for?

While the whole fiasco was going on the announcers said as much.. the refs went to the review.. huddled up, and went back to the review again, and there was commentary the whole entire time. Horford's ejection was a foregone conclusion after the first look. But then they were trying to establish if there was any provocation, which, after the second look, they concluded there was and issued Delly with the T as compensation.

Did you watch the game?

[plowking]

If any thrown elbow not thrown after a punch or thrown elbow first doesn't deserve a suspension it's this.

Be logical for a minute.

Horford was getting his knee taken out. He reacted.

Punishment is beyond fair.

Who was his knee getting taken out by? I missed that.

I saw him dragging Delly, creating the whole situation, putting him in an arm lock, etc.

When did the knee trying to get taken out happen?

[plowking]

While the whole fiasco was going on the announcers said as much.. the refs went to the review.. huddled up, and went back to the review again, and there was commentary the whole entire time. Horford's ejection was a foregone conclusion after the first look. But then they were trying to establish if there was any provocation, which, after the second look, they concluded there was and issued Delly with the T as compensation.

Did you watch the game?

I did.

They made the correct call on Horford and the wrong one on Delly.

Are you saying that every time one of the refs calls a double tech, it is the correct call, and both players were instigators?

[Droid101]

Cleanest, nicest player in league history. Delly is a horrible person trying to hurt him like that.

[tpols]

I did.

They made the correct call on Horford and the wrong one on Delly.

Are you saying that every time one of the refs calls a double tech, it is the correct call, and both players were instigators?

No.. Im saying if it was a clear open and shut case of one player dragging another down and elbowing him in the head.. there wouldn't be any punishment for the victim, since in your depiction he is clearly free of fault.

In the eyes of the refs/league however, delladova's past was taken into account and is the reason he was issued a technical because he has shown a willingness to partake in dirty manuevers in the past, making the chance of the event in question being completely innocent more suspect.

[plowking]

No.. Im saying if it was a clear open and shut case of one player dragging another down and elbowing him in the head.. there wouldn't be any punishment for the victim, since in your depiction he is clearly free of fault.

In the eyes of the refs/league however, delladova's past was taken into account and is the reason he was issued a technical because he has shown a willingness to partake in dirty manuevers in the past, making the chance of the event in question being completely innocent more suspect.

What were his other dirty maneuvers in his whole NBA career?

A leg lock on Taj Gibson?

[RedBlackAttack]

Do you think elbowing a player in the side of the head is part of the game that should be embraced?

Hey, remember that time when Horford essentially ended TJ Ford's career?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z1fySRESrE

Stand up guy.

[plowking]

Hey, remember that time when Horford essentially ended TJ Ford's career?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z1fySRESrE

Stand up guy.

Not a dirty player though.

Delly though. Doesn't the f*cker know there is an unwritten rule in America where you can't dive for loose balls, and you aren't allowed to push anyone back if they do it to you!

Us Australians must become more integrated into American society far quicker than what we are doing.

[Alamо]

Horford got ejected. They realized it was a dirty play.

Delly stayed in the game. He didn't get a flagrant, which is a non basketball play, so clearly the tech was for something else. You're acting like incorrect tech's have never been given.

Elbowing someone in the head should always be a flagrant 2. Refs did a good job.

What was the tech for then?

[plowking]

What was the tech for then?

I'm not going to pretend to know like tpols. Why don't you ask him. You seem to be completely satisfied with his biased, vague answers since it runs in line with yours.

You'll be happier that way. You won't know you're wrong, but happier. Ignorance is bliss as they say.

If you'd like to comment on the thread question, by all means, go ahead.

[tpols]

What were his other dirty maneuvers in his whole NBA career?

A leg lock on Taj Gibson?

Hes had three in like 3 weeks.. the leg lock, the permanently ending the Hawks starting SG's season, and now this, the falling into a big guys knee chop block style when he realized he was beat.

The league itself ruled on a 'pattern'.. not just me.