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Old 03-17-2013, 04:14 PM   #61
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Isiah Thomas

Dominique Wilkins

Patrick Ewing.

Hakeem Olaijuwon

Which of these players was underrated back then? They were stars.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:07 PM   #62
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Which of these players was underrated back then? They were stars.

They were stars but could not become all-time great SUPERSTARS like Kobe, Duncan, LBJ

'00 onwards, all 4 of them '80s stars (isian, nique, hakeem, ewing) will be hogging season MVPs & FMVPs as TEAM LEADERS.

plain & simple.

They had it all. SELFISHNESS, SKILLS, STAMINA, ENDURANCE & CLUTCHNESS

Notice I deliberately left out Clyde, my fav growing up.

he was too GENTLEMENLY & wasnt SELFISH enough to go at full steam.

Just think about it. ISIAH has ZERO MVPs & NASH has 2 MVPS as PURE PGs.

does it makes sense.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:11 PM   #63
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A lot of perimeter players and swingmen would be on cloud 9. Guys like Bernard King, Alex English, Adrian Dantley, James Worthy. Someone mentioned Joe Dumars. He'd be above average for sure, but his game was defense oriented and with the elimination of handchecking, I wouldn't see him dominating.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:14 PM   #64
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Both the underrated and stars would tear up today's league.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:29 PM   #65
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Smarts have nothing to do with age. Even a 5 year old kid can be smarter than all of us here. (And there are 5 year olds out there, who actually are). But no 5 year old has the same amount of experience we do.

And as you pointed out, being knowledgeable has at least as much to do with experience as it has to do with smarts. There are things you can not outsmart yourself of. You need experience for which you need time.

While someone is young, it's hard to realize. Noone can, actually. And interestingly, the smarter someone is, the more prone he is to think at a young age that he is as knowledgeable as everyone else. It's because he realizes he is smarter than most adults -- which is true. Yet, less knowledgable.

Interesting, how stuff like this works.
Not exactly on topic, but I think what your trying to say is summed up in Good Will Hunting when Williams is talking to Damon on the bench in the park. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEIQSbul9Os
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:13 PM   #66
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Not exactly on topic, but I think what your trying to say is summed up in Good Will Hunting when Williams is talking to Damon on the bench in the park. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEIQSbul9Os

Yes.

Even more off topic, but here is this movie you can learn a lot from. I suggest you check it out if you haven't already.

21 Grams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_kVbGHvsc
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:14 PM   #67
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Bernard King would lead the league in scoring.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:59 PM   #68
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Bernard King would lead the league in scoring.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:43 PM   #69
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Joe Dumars would be DPOY in 2012-2013.
you think so? I agree he was a superb defender, but the award always goes to someone with sexy defensive stats.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:49 PM   #70
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:59 PM   #71
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i think moses would dominate, but then again his game might not translate as well in todays game, and he was also very physical which the league has gotten away from
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:36 PM   #72
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King had a terrific mid-range game along with great runners.

Yes.

Even better than Kobe who has suspect mid-range game & King doesnt need to shoot like Kobe from distance to score.

So, in today's day & age. Kobe can be 2 x scoring champ. So can King easily if he chucks up enough FGA from mid-range.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:12 PM   #73
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He averaged between 3-5 assists in his heyday in Utah.

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Had he played for a lesser team I believe his numbers would have been much higher.

Questionable. Magic got him lots of easy baskets that he wouldn't have got anywhere else.

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I watched the whole era, and people now put him below some of the other small forwards in the league like Wilkins, English, Dantly, king, etc. ,but the thing is none of those guys could stop Worthy, he played way bigger than any small forward in the league.

He was way bigger.

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there was no power forward in the league that could guard Worthy

How many can guard sf's?

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he also had the best post up game of any small forward I've seen.

That would be Dantley.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:22 PM   #74
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They were stars but could not become all-time great SUPERSTARS like Kobe, Duncan, LBJ

'00 onwards, all 4 of them '80s stars (isian, nique, hakeem, ewing) will be hogging season MVPs & FMVPs as TEAM LEADERS.

plain & simple.

They had it all. SELFISHNESS, SKILLS, STAMINA, ENDURANCE & CLUTCHNESS

Notice I deliberately left out Clyde, my fav growing up.

he was too GENTLEMENLY & wasnt SELFISH enough to go at full steam.

This shows how far the pendulum has swung.

Selfishness is being cited as a positive quality, while not being selfish is seen as a flaw.

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Old 03-17-2013, 11:24 PM   #75
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how many of these SFs people mentioning would be able to put the ball on the deck and create? i think if your a perimeter scorer and you dont have good handles today, there is really a ceiling on how successful you can be.
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