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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk
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    No I clearly gotcha

    No one ever tried to say young Kobe had a weak cast - you made that up and it made my point stronger... So thanks bruh, you da man

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

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    Not at all - I've never claimed that young Kobe had a weaker cast than young lebron - young Kobe's cast was clearly much better - everyone knows that, so im on solid ground

    You guys are the ones ignoring that lebron had a better cast than MJ, which is why his teams were seeded much higher despite him producing much less than MJ

    MJ had nothing until 1990, while lebron had 3 all-stars (Zydrunas, Mo, Jamison), 2 all-league defenders (Hughes, Varejao), the 09' all-star mvp as 4th option in 10', and the COY
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    Kobe didn't even have a cast until he was 26yrs old. That's the first time he was considered the best player on the team.

    Then how did Chicago have a 2-1 lead against Detroit in 89 if they had nothing?

    How did they almost take a 3-2 series lead in spite of MJ only taking 8FGA that game if they had nothing?

    How did "nothing" hold Detroit to 42% shooting in that series?

    Just admit you never even watched that series and don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    [COLOR="Red"]Here's how much tougher MJ's conference was:[/COLOR]


    PLAYOFFS

    MJ. 85-87':[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.5 ppg.. 1.9 oreb.. 4.4 dreb.. 6.9 apg.. 2.4 spg.. 1.5 bpg.. 56.0 ts.. 27.4 PER
    LBJ 06-08':[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.5 ppg.. 1.4 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 1.6 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 53.1 ts.. 23.8 PER..


    [Color="red"]^^^ Yet Jordan lost in 1st Round, while lebron produced less but made Finals[/color]
    Empty stats, obviously 80s MJ doesn't play winning basketball. Took Pippen to come along and show him what's up

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    No I clearly gotcha

    No one ever tried to say young Kobe had a weak cast - you made that up and it made my point stronger... So thanks bruh, you da man
    Lol you have me confused with another poster apparently.

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Kobe didn't even have a cast until he was 26yrs old. That's the first time he was considered the best player on the team.

    Then how did Chicago have a 2-1 lead against Detroit in 89 if they had nothing?

    How did they almost take a 3-2 series lead in spite of MJ only taking 8FGA that game if they had nothing?

    How did "nothing" hold Detroit to 42% shooting in that series?

    Just admit you never even watched that series and don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    That's too strong, you'll end up putting him in a coma he's a lightweight.....

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo

    Kobe didn't even have a cast until he was 26yrs old. That's the first time he was considered the best player on the team.

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]Then how did Chicago have a 2-1 lead against Detroit in 89 if they had nothing? [/COLOR]

    How did they almost take a 3-2 series lead in spite of MJ only taking 8FGA that game if they had nothing?

    How did "nothing" hold Detroit to 42% shooting in that series?

    Just admit you never even watched that series and don't know what the hell you're talking about.
    The same way Lebron had a 2-1 lead in the 2015 Finals - carrying his team as the underdog... .. slow today are we?

    Btw, Detroit shot poorly because MJ held Isiah and Dumars to 37% each, while baby Pip let Aguirre shoot 53%
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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    The same way Lebron had a 2-1 lead in the 2015 Finals - carrying his team as the underdog... .. slow today are we?

    Btw, Detroit shot poorly because MJ held Isiah and Dumars to 37% each, while baby Pip let Aguirre shoot 53%
    Except you've done nothing but praise Mozgov for that series. Said how great he was and that LeBron phased him out after having a big game. Why all of sudden now you say LeBron did it on his own in 2015? You're now admitting James carried the Cavs to the Finals with nothing? Comparing 2015 to MJ's quit job is quite comical.

    Detroit shot poorly due to the Bulls team defense plus missing wide open shots.

    Isiah shot 39%. As usual, you fudge the numbers.

    Regular season MJ shot 54%. Isiah the midget holding him to 46% on the series must have been pretty embarrassing for MJ, huh? Or was it the Jordan rules like you said many times? How could MJ alone have Chicago up 2-1 if Detroit was playing suffocating Jordan Rules defense on him like you said?

    In game 5, the Bulls were in it the entire game in spite of MJ refusing to shoot. Not getting involved in the offense whatsoever, yet Bulls had multiple 10pt leads in the first half. Detroit shot 30% in the first half. If MJ would have taken his head out of his ass, it could have been close to 20 point leads at times. Yet he was scared to death to even try to drive to the basket in game 5.

    To say Chicago had nothing in 89 is beyond dumb. You've made it even more evident you didn't watch the series.

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Except you've done nothing but praise Mozgov for that series. Said how great he was and that LeBron phased him out after having a big game. Why all of sudden now you say LeBron did it on his own in 2015? [COLOR="Blue"]You're now admitting James carried the Cavs to the Finals with nothing? Comparing 2015 to MJ's quit jobnin 89' ECF is quite comical.[/COLOR]

    To say Chicago had nothing in 89 is beyond dumb. You've made it even more evident you didn't watch the series.
    Yes, Lebron carried a nothing cast to a 2-1 lead over the Curry-Warriors, just like MJ led his nothing cast to a 2-1 lead over the Bad Boys.. Both collapsed and lost the lead after that.

    And both were 1-man teams, although Mosgov and Tristan were obviously much better than 89' Pippen:



    Mosgov 15' Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 14.0.... 7.5.. 1.0... 55.1 fg
    Tristan[COLOR="White"].'[/COLOR] 15' Finals:[COLOR="White"].'[/COLOR] 10.0.. 13.0.. 0.3... 50.0 fg
    Pippen[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 89' ECF: [COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 9.7.... 7.3.. 3.0... 40.4 fg


    So ur just lying at this point - you weren't there and are simply fabricating lies 30 years after the fact.. it's pathetic

    Look how horrible 89' Pippen was compared to 09' Mo':


    09' Mo Will RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 18/3/4.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ORtg.. 17.1 PER.. 0.165 ws/48.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
    89' Pippen RS:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 14/6/4.. 52.4 ts.. 102 ORtg.. 14.9 PER.. 0.080 ws/48.. 1.4 bpm.. 2.1 vorp

    09' Mo Will ECF:[COLOR="White"].ni[/COLOR] 18/3/4.. 50.5 ts.. 102 ORtg.. lost to #4 SRS (2 all-stars)
    89' Pippen 1st Rd:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15/9/4.. 51.0 ts.. 102 ORtg.. beat [COLOR="White"]'o[/COLOR] #1 SRS (3 all-stars*)
    89' Pippen ECF:[COLOR="White"]ni.'[/COLOR] 10/7/3.. 45.3 ts.... 92 ORtg


    Again, you're clearly FOS... Avoid this raping that I'm administering on you and accept the obvious facts - MJ was a 1-man show in 89' just like Lebron in 2015 Finals, except MJ had to carry his team all year, while lebron only had to carry his team for a couple series...
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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    He didn't need a winning record either
    destroyed

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
    destroyed
    No, he showed how dumb people think about this issue

    Hey Yo is the only one I see that got destroyed itt

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    He didn't need a winning record either

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
    ^^^ fake

    Or perhaps you're laughing at SouBeach and his opinion, in which case..

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    3ball got absolutely raped in this thread.

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    3ball got absolutely raped in this thread.
    first reply slays are the best

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    Default Re: Lebron needed 2-time all-star C; 1st team defender; & future COY to make 06' Playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    3ball got absolutely raped in this thread.
    Says a lebron stan

    But the reality is that I'm Mayweather itt - no one laid a finger on me

    Otoh, look what I did to Hey Yo a few posts up .. yikes.. he's ghost after i showed him that mosgov and Tristan were far better in the 15' Finals than 89' pip

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