Why did Jordan only make 6 finals in 13 playoff appearances?

[superduper]

Tanking is a strategy retard, it doesn't effect the overall talent like the expansion drafts did

Just accept that your hero benefited from 2 expansion drafts in order to 3-peat

Whether it's expansion or tanking, either way they don't affect the teams at the top as much. So your point is moot in regards to this thread.

[LostCause]

Tanking is a strategy retard, it doesn't effect the overall talent like the expansion drafts did

Just accept that your hero benefited from 2 expansion drafts in order to 3-peat

How did Jordan benefit from expansion exactly? His team had to give up talent too. You guys like to cite BJ Armstrong making the All-Star team in 94 to show how much help he had. BJ was LOST to the expansion draft. So Jordan lost an all-star point guard! So what unfair advantage helped Jordan when every team had to do the same thing, moron?

Tanking does affect talent, dumbass. Example the Sixers were practically GIVING players away during the "process". You have loads of teams tanking and shipping out quality players just so that they can either increase their draft odds OR create cap space for a free agent class (See the Knicks). Additionally expansions only really target players who the team chooses not to protect, and given they can protect up to 8 those are players 9-12 usually. Using the NBA Champ Raptors as an example, assuming the team keeps their Top 8 players in minutes per game in the playoffs, the 9-12 selection would be: Eric Moreland, Jeremy Lin, Patrick McCaw and Jodie Meeks. Choose 1 of them and yeah, I'm sure the Raptors are suddenly a much worse team now lmao

I asked you twice what you meant about that other shit you said and youve now dodged it twice. I'll take that as you conceding you had no point, as you'll be doing here shortly again anyway

[PWB15]

Why did Lebron have to leave and join stars to win championships?

Why couldnt he be like Kobe and Kawhi??

[SpaceJam2]

So to recap

-couldn't win a playoff series without Scottie
-gets Scottie, wins rings against weak teams
-attempts to piggy back off Scottie in 95 to win a cheap ring but fails
-loses Scottie in his Washington days and never sniffs another Finals

What seems to be the constant in Jordan's success...


Anyone?

[Mr Feeny]

Of all the dumb threads on the front page, this takes the cake.

[LostCause]

So to recap

-couldn't win a playoff series without Scottie
-gets Scottie, wins rings against weak teams
-attempts to piggy back off Scottie in 95 to win a cheap ring but fails
-loses Scottie in his Washington days and never sniffs another Finals

What seems to be the constant in Jordan's success...


Anyone?

LeBron has now played for 3 different teams in his career, jumping ship once his "superteams" fall apart

All that movement, yet he's only won a championship for 18% of his career! Compared to Jordans winning it 40% of the time.

18%

Let that sink in
-If you shoot 50 jumpers, that's making 9 of them.
-If that were a team in an 82-game season, their record would be about 15-67. That winning percentage would place it in the Top 16 WORST in NBA history out of the THOUSANDS of Teams/Seasons available

Now imagine that if he doesn't win this season, it drops down to 17%

Sheesh. Anyone?

[Manny98]

How did Jordan benefit from expansion exactly? His team had to give up talent too. You guys like to cite BJ Armstrong making the All-Star team in 94 to show how much help he had. BJ was LOST to the expansion draft. So Jordan lost an all-star point guard! So what unfair advantage helped Jordan when every team had to do the same thing, moron?

Tanking does affect talent, dumbass. Example the Sixers were practically GIVING players away during the "process". You have loads of teams tanking and shipping out quality players just so that they can either increase their draft odds OR create cap space for a free agent class (See the Knicks). Additionally expansions only really target players who the team chooses not to protect, and given they can protect up to 8 those are players 9-12 usually. Using the NBA Champ Raptors as an example, assuming the team keeps their Top 8 players in minutes per game in the playoffs, the 9-12 selection would be: Eric Moreland, Jeremy Lin, Patrick McCaw and Jodie Meeks. Choose 1 of them and yeah, I'm sure the Raptors are suddenly a much worse team now lmao

I asked you twice what you meant about that other shit you said and youve now dodged it twice. I'll take that as you conceding you had no point, as you'll be doing here shortly again anyway

He benefited because it weakened the competition

[305Baller]

retarded thread is retarded

[FromDowntown]

When he made it he won. End of discussion

[guy]

How did Jordan benefit from expansion exactly? His team had to give up talent too. You guys like to cite BJ Armstrong making the All-Star team in 94 to show how much help he had. BJ was LOST to the expansion draft. So Jordan lost an all-star point guard! So what unfair advantage helped Jordan when every team had to do the same thing, moron?

Tanking does affect talent, dumbass. Example the Sixers were practically GIVING players away during the "process". You have loads of teams tanking and shipping out quality players just so that they can either increase their draft odds OR create cap space for a free agent class (See the Knicks). Additionally expansions only really target players who the team chooses not to protect, and given they can protect up to 8 those are players 9-12 usually. Using the NBA Champ Raptors as an example, assuming the team keeps their Top 8 players in minutes per game in the playoffs, the 9-12 selection would be: Eric Moreland, Jeremy Lin, Patrick McCaw and Jodie Meeks. Choose 1 of them and yeah, I'm sure the Raptors are suddenly a much worse team now lmao

I asked you twice what you meant about that other shit you said and youve now dodged it twice. I'll take that as you conceding you had no point, as you'll be doing here shortly again anyway

The expansion arguments are so funny. If you actually look at some of the drafts in the late 80s after the expansion teams came in, if those teams didn

[Vragrant]

Ummm, isn't 6 Finals in 13 playoff appaarances pretty good?

[LostCause]

He benefited because it weakened the competition

His team lost an ALL-STAR PG though but sure let's just ignore that. Who else lost as much?

Seriously. Were you even aware that expansion affects EVERY team? Every team was "weakened" dipshit. Answer my question though, if the Raptors of last season went through an expansion draft and lost either Eric Moreland, Jeremy Lin, Patrick McCaw or Jodie Meeks, they'd be "weakened competition" and easy pickings now right? Lmao

How much dumber do you wanna look here Manny?

[Manny98]

His team lost an ALL-STAR PG though but sure let's just ignore that. Who else lost as much?

Seriously. Were you even aware that expansion affects EVERY team? Every team was "weakened" dipshit. Answer my question though, if the Raptors of last season went through an expansion draft and lost either Eric Moreland, Jeremy Lin, Patrick McCaw or Jodie Meeks, they'd be "weakened competition" and easy pickings now right? Lmao

How much dumber do you wanna look here Manny?

Poor MJ he only has 2 all star teammates now instead of 3

Still had BY FAR the most stacked team in the league at the time

[superduper]

retarded thread is retarded

Welcome to OPs world, easily worst poster on ISH

[TheCorporation]

So to recap

-couldn't win a playoff series without Scottie
-gets Scottie, wins rings against weak teams
-attempts to piggy back off Scottie in 95 to win a cheap ring but fails
-loses Scottie in his Washington days and never sniffs another Finals

What seems to be the constant in Jordan's success...


Anyone?

No Pip, No Chip

1-9 before Scottie bailed him out, and then MJ went playoffless after Scottie left Chicago

I am surprised more people don't know this though...