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    Default Nobody can WIN MVP...

    nobody can win mvp

    its not an accomplishment

    its a nomination

    win
    Last edited by kennethgriffin; 06-30-2014 at 04:24 PM.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    When Wilt didn't win MVP, it was voted on by players. It's been voted on by the media since 81.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    When Wilt didn't win MVP, it was voted on by players. It's been voted on by the media since 81.
    true. but its still not a competition of basketball

    it was still opinion

    players went more of reputation around the league. media goes more off reputation around their inner circle

    same as oscar nominations. its a preferred members only insiders deal. all politics.


    i'm sure if leonardo dicaprio was jewish. he'd have 5 oscars by now

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    true. but its still not a competition of basketball

    it was still opinion

    players went more of reputation around the league. media goes more off reputation around their inner circle

    same as oscar nominations. its a preferred members only insiders deal. all politics.
    I mean, I don't care about awards at all TBH.

    All that matters to me is level of play, and how long you play at a high level. Level of play not referring to stats, but how much you contribute to winning titles.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    i've said this before. rarely is the mvp the best player in the nba or the player who had the best season

    2001 mvp - iverson, best player - shaq, best season - kobe

    2002 mvp - duncan, best player - shaq, best season - kidd

    2003 mvp - duncan, best player - kobe, best season - mcgrady

    2004 mvp - garnett, best player - duncan, best season - garnett

    2005 mvp - nash, best player - shaq, best season - iverson

    2006 mvp - nash, best player - kobe, best season - kobe

    2007 mvp - dirk, best player - kobe, best season - kobe

    2008 mvp - kobe, best player - kobe, best season - lebron

    2009 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - wade

    2010 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - lebron

    2011 mvp - rose, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2012 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2013 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2014 mvp - durant, best player - lebron, best season - durant

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    i've said this before. rarely is the mvp the best player in the nba or the player who had the best season

    2001 mvp - iverson, best player - shaq, best season - kobe

    2002 mvp - duncan, best player - shaq, best season - kidd

    2003 mvp - duncan, best player - kobe, best season - mcgrady

    2004 mvp - garnett, best player - duncan, best season - garnett

    2005 mvp - nash, best player - shaq, best season - iverson

    2006 mvp - nash, best player - kobe, best season - kobe

    2007 mvp - dirk, best player - kobe, best season - kobe

    2008 mvp - kobe, best player - kobe, best season - lebron

    2009 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - wade

    2010 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - lebron

    2011 mvp - rose, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2012 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2013 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2014 mvp - durant, best player - lebron, best season - durant
    Please explain to me how you can be the best player in a given year, yet not have the best season? Even if that meant championships that clearly wouldn't apply to most of your examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    i've said this before. rarely is the mvp the best player in the nba or the player who had the best season

    2001 mvp - iverson, best player - shaq, best season - kobe

    2002 mvp - duncan, best player - shaq, best season - kidd

    2003 mvp - duncan, best player - kobe, best season - mcgrady

    2004 mvp - garnett, best player - duncan, best season - garnett

    2005 mvp - nash, best player - shaq, best season - iverson

    2006 mvp - nash, best player - kobe, best season - kobe

    2007 mvp - dirk, best player - kobe, best season - kobe

    2008 mvp - kobe, best player - kobe, best season - lebron

    2009 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - wade

    2010 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - lebron

    2011 mvp - rose, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2012 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2013 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant

    2014 mvp - durant, best player - lebron, best season - durant

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Regular season MVP is a great individual accomplishment, but it doesn't necessarily make you a better player than those that didn't win.

    Kobe's much better than Nash. Better than Bron. Better than Malone. Etc.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Please explain to me how you can be the best player in a given year, yet not have the best season? Even if that meant championships that clearly wouldn't apply to most of your examples
    because of either

    a) injuries

    b) situation

    c) team mates

    d) competition

    e) shots

    f) minutes

    g) role




    seriously? are you really that much of a sheep? do you honestly think a guy is automatically a better player if they average 1 more point or assist?

    theres soooooooooooo many factors


    malone had the better season in 98. was he the best player on the planet though?

    no... jordan won mvp averaging only 3 assists... he was pacing himself that year.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
    Regular season MVP is a great individual accomplishment, but it doesn't necessarily make you a better player than those that didn't win.

    Kobe's much better than Nash. Better than Bron. Better than Malone. Etc.
    how does one ACCOMPLISH the mvp



    another word that i don't see any connection with opinion


    if i went up to 20 friends and asked them if i'm the best player they know of in my group of friends.. did i accomplish anything?

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    how does one ACCOMPLISH the mvp



    another word that i don't see any connection with opinion


    if i went up to 20 friends and asked them if i'm the best player they know of in my group of friends.. did i accomplish anything?
    I see your point.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    did i accomplish anything if one day i wake up and i THINK i'm god

    all MVP can be defined as is "THOUGHT" because its collective opinion

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    I'd like to hear how Westbrook was obviously the driving force for OKC this year? Westbrook didn't play in 36 games and Durant still led OKC to 59 wins in a brutally tough Western Conference. I love Russ, and think the majority of the tired criticisms used to take away from his impact and ability as a player are stupid, but if you're using the playoffs as proof for your argument, it's kind of silly, no?

    Durant played the most minutes of any player during the regular season while Westbrook missed 36 games. For comparison's sake, Westbrook played 1,412 minutes in the regular season compared to Durant playing 3,122 minutes. I think some of what we saw in the playoffs, the appearance of Westbrook being the driving force for OKC this year, was directly due to him being fresher for the playoffs while the weight of having to do so much in the regular season really started wearing on Durant in the playoff grind.

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Pick next years MVP


    Calderon/shumpert/murry
    Jr/OJ/jimmer
    CARMELO/cleanthony/eliasharris
    Sanders/illyasova/aDaye
    Bargnani/Zaza/fesenko


    I'll give you a hint. His name is all caps

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    Default Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are

    Quote Originally Posted by el gringos
    Pick next years MVP


    Calderon/shumpert/murry
    Jr/OJ/jimmer
    CARMELO/cleanthony/eliasharris
    Sanders/illyasova/aDaye
    Bargnani/Zaza/fesenko


    I'll give you a hint. His name is all caps

    next year

    MVP - George , Best player - Lebron , Best season - Melo


    i just see indiana improving. sanantonio slipping a bit. indiana #1 overall record and george's numbers get up to 25ppg+

    media will like the fresh story.

    melo will average the highest ppg hes ever gotten. possibly 32 a game

    lebron will be the best player but sacrifice allot of stats when they add a 4th allstar

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