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Nobody can WIN MVP...
nobody can win mvp
its not an accomplishment
its a nomination
win
Last edited by kennethgriffin; 06-30-2014 at 04:24 PM.
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sahelanthropus
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
When Wilt didn't win MVP, it was voted on by players. It's been voted on by the media since 81.
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by fpliii
When Wilt didn't win MVP, it was voted on by players. It's been voted on by the media since 81.
true. but its still not a competition of basketball
it was still opinion
players went more of reputation around the league. media goes more off reputation around their inner circle
same as oscar nominations. its a preferred members only insiders deal. all politics.
i'm sure if leonardo dicaprio was jewish. he'd have 5 oscars by now
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sahelanthropus
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
true. but its still not a competition of basketball
it was still opinion
players went more of reputation around the league. media goes more off reputation around their inner circle
same as oscar nominations. its a preferred members only insiders deal. all politics.
I mean, I don't care about awards at all TBH.
All that matters to me is level of play, and how long you play at a high level. Level of play not referring to stats, but how much you contribute to winning titles.
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
i've said this before. rarely is the mvp the best player in the nba or the player who had the best season
2001 mvp - iverson, best player - shaq, best season - kobe
2002 mvp - duncan, best player - shaq, best season - kidd
2003 mvp - duncan, best player - kobe, best season - mcgrady
2004 mvp - garnett, best player - duncan, best season - garnett
2005 mvp - nash, best player - shaq, best season - iverson
2006 mvp - nash, best player - kobe, best season - kobe
2007 mvp - dirk, best player - kobe, best season - kobe
2008 mvp - kobe, best player - kobe, best season - lebron
2009 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - wade
2010 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - lebron
2011 mvp - rose, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2012 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2013 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2014 mvp - durant, best player - lebron, best season - durant
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
i've said this before. rarely is the mvp the best player in the nba or the player who had the best season
2001 mvp - iverson, best player - shaq, best season - kobe
2002 mvp - duncan, best player - shaq, best season - kidd
2003 mvp - duncan, best player - kobe, best season - mcgrady
2004 mvp - garnett, best player - duncan, best season - garnett
2005 mvp - nash, best player - shaq, best season - iverson
2006 mvp - nash, best player - kobe, best season - kobe
2007 mvp - dirk, best player - kobe, best season - kobe
2008 mvp - kobe, best player - kobe, best season - lebron
2009 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - wade
2010 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - lebron
2011 mvp - rose, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2012 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2013 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2014 mvp - durant, best player - lebron, best season - durant
Please explain to me how you can be the best player in a given year, yet not have the best season? Even if that meant championships that clearly wouldn't apply to most of your examples
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
i've said this before. rarely is the mvp the best player in the nba or the player who had the best season
2001 mvp - iverson, best player - shaq, best season - kobe
2002 mvp - duncan, best player - shaq, best season - kidd
2003 mvp - duncan, best player - kobe, best season - mcgrady
2004 mvp - garnett, best player - duncan, best season - garnett
2005 mvp - nash, best player - shaq, best season - iverson
2006 mvp - nash, best player - kobe, best season - kobe
2007 mvp - dirk, best player - kobe, best season - kobe
2008 mvp - kobe, best player - kobe, best season - lebron
2009 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - wade
2010 mvp - lebron, best player - kobe, best season - lebron
2011 mvp - rose, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2012 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2013 mvp - lebron, best player - lebron, best season - durant
2014 mvp - durant, best player - lebron, best season - durant
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Free the banned users.
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Regular season MVP is a great individual accomplishment, but it doesn't necessarily make you a better player than those that didn't win.
Kobe's much better than Nash. Better than Bron. Better than Malone. Etc.
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Please explain to me how you can be the best player in a given year, yet not have the best season? Even if that meant championships that clearly wouldn't apply to most of your examples
because of either
a) injuries
b) situation
c) team mates
d) competition
e) shots
f) minutes
g) role
seriously? are you really that much of a sheep? do you honestly think a guy is automatically a better player if they average 1 more point or assist?
theres soooooooooooo many factors
malone had the better season in 98. was he the best player on the planet though?
no... jordan won mvp averaging only 3 assists... he was pacing himself that year.
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
Regular season MVP is a great individual accomplishment, but it doesn't necessarily make you a better player than those that didn't win.
Kobe's much better than Nash. Better than Bron. Better than Malone. Etc.
how does one ACCOMPLISH the mvp
another word that i don't see any connection with opinion
if i went up to 20 friends and asked them if i'm the best player they know of in my group of friends.. did i accomplish anything?
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Free the banned users.
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
how does one ACCOMPLISH the mvp
another word that i don't see any connection with opinion
if i went up to 20 friends and asked them if i'm the best player they know of in my group of friends.. did i accomplish anything?
I see your point.
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
did i accomplish anything if one day i wake up and i THINK i'm god
all MVP can be defined as is "THOUGHT" because its collective opinion
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
I'd like to hear how Westbrook was obviously the driving force for OKC this year? Westbrook didn't play in 36 games and Durant still led OKC to 59 wins in a brutally tough Western Conference. I love Russ, and think the majority of the tired criticisms used to take away from his impact and ability as a player are stupid, but if you're using the playoffs as proof for your argument, it's kind of silly, no?
Durant played the most minutes of any player during the regular season while Westbrook missed 36 games. For comparison's sake, Westbrook played 1,412 minutes in the regular season compared to Durant playing 3,122 minutes. I think some of what we saw in the playoffs, the appearance of Westbrook being the driving force for OKC this year, was directly due to him being fresher for the playoffs while the weight of having to do so much in the regular season really started wearing on Durant in the playoff grind.
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College star
Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Pick next years MVP
Calderon/shumpert/murry
Jr/OJ/jimmer
CARMELO/cleanthony/eliasharris
Sanders/illyasova/aDaye
Bargnani/Zaza/fesenko
I'll give you a hint. His name is all caps
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Re: anyone can be MVP if the media thinks they are
Originally Posted by el gringos
Pick next years MVP
Calderon/shumpert/murry
Jr/OJ/jimmer
CARMELO/cleanthony/eliasharris
Sanders/illyasova/aDaye
Bargnani/Zaza/fesenko
I'll give you a hint. His name is all caps
next year
MVP - George , Best player - Lebron , Best season - Melo
i just see indiana improving. sanantonio slipping a bit. indiana #1 overall record and george's numbers get up to 25ppg+
media will like the fresh story.
melo will average the highest ppg hes ever gotten. possibly 32 a game
lebron will be the best player but sacrifice allot of stats when they add a 4th allstar
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