Kyrie Irving is definitely a TOP 5 PG in the league right now

[HurricaneKid]

DEFEND?!?? Are people serious? The Cavs were 9 points worse defensively when he was on the floor than when he wasn't (per 100 poss). He was one of the 3 worst defensive players in the NBA last year, worse than Harden even.

Now MAYBE he will put in some effort on that side of the ball this year and he leaps all the way from shameful to adequate.

But you guys are out of your damn minds if you think he is in the same galaxy as the top 5 PGs in the NBA. If your proof is that he tore up a slow white Serbian in foul trouble, you are going to need a little more evidence. Because the 8000+ possessions he played last year showed something entirely different.

[Hoopz2332]

It only started when LeBron returned to the Cavs

100% false!!! There are numerous threads from last season stating how overrated Kyrie (kevin Love too) is. he could even get the cavs into the playoffs as a bottom feeder in the East!!! Infact, when the Cavs were in the playoffs hunt lat last season, the Cavs played better w/o Kyrie playing and as soon as he came back,the Cavs went to sh1t

now all his stans are trashing Kyrie and Love like they're mega scrubs.

No, if anything the LBJ haters are starting to overhype Kyrie like he's elite when there are numerous facts stating otherwise.

[Paul George 24]

Well, he's gonna make his playoffs debut next season.

then he is a proven loser

[TheMarkMadsen]

100% false!!! There are numerous threads from last season stating how overrated Kyrie (kevin Love too) is. he could even get the cavs into the playoffs as a bottom feeder in the East!!! Infact, when the Cavs were in the playoffs hunt lat last season, the Cavs played better w/o Kyrie playing and as soon as he came back,the Cavs went to sh1t




No, if anything the LBJ haters are starting to overhype Kyrie like he's elite when there are numerous facts stating otherwise.

yeah this is really something new

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=288626