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NBA Legend
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
tell me your criteria you little bitch. instead of talking about whether or not you like the filters used, you straight up told me that the stats are not correct.
You are on the internet, you should have checked the stats instead of crying like a little bitch.
First of all...I never said the stats were incorrect, moose head. Learn to read.
There are a bunch of criteria's. Look up 82 games' measure of clutch, or even some of Arbitrarywater's posts regarding LeBron's 4th quarter scoring. Quit asking other posters to spoon-feed your dumb ass.
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Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
I agree with you - but that's OP in a nutshell. A dishonest coward who cherry-picked these stats just so his guy could look clutch.
Checkout Bron's 4th quarter stats this past finals, specifically during the last 5 minutes of play, with no team up more than 5 (closer to your scenario). You'll get a good laugh, I assure you.
The thing is, its tiring af to carry a scrub team through the playoffs and then have to do every single thing each game in the finals bc the players left on the roster that arent injured have done nothing meaningful in their careers ever. So by the 45th minute the exhaustion starts catchin up Im sure.
When you only make the finals piggybacking off a dominant big man, its much easier to keep up your energy for chucking. And even still... Look at those clutch stats
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
First of all...I never said the stats were incorrect, moose head. Learn to read.
There are a bunch of criteria's. Look up 82 games' measure of clutch, or even some of Arbitrarywater's posts regarding LeBron's 4th quarter scoring. Quit asking other posters to spoon-feed your dumb ass.
in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 5:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -5 and 0 points
Kobe: 50-130 on 38.4% http://bkref.com/tiny/7artR
LeBron: 65-140 on 46.4% http://bkref.com/tiny/lvdsc
Dirk: 35-92 on 38% http://bkref.com/tiny/5Hdyl
Pierce: 47-125 on 37.6% http://bkref.com/tiny/fahak
keep crying retard. Even by your criteria, lebron is ahead of kobe.
i only took stats for when lebron's team was trailing. if i took both up or down by 5 stats then lebron would be even more ahead.
Last edited by Rose'sACL; 08-15-2015 at 09:49 PM.
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NBA Legend
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 5:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -5 and 0 points
Kobe: 50-130 on 38.4%
LeBron: 65-140 on 46.4%
keep crying retard.
That's nice you compared Kobe to LeBron, but I never made that comparison.
Good job exposing your agenda, baby dick.
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... on a leash
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
First of all...I never said the stats were incorrect, moose head. Learn to read.
There are a bunch of criteria's. Look up 82 games' measure of clutch, or even some of Arbitrarywater's posts regarding LeBron's 4th quarter scoring. Quit asking other posters to spoon-feed your dumb ass.
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
That's nice you compared Kobe to LeBron, but I never made that comparison.
Good job exposing your agenda, baby dick.
Why should i go by anyone else's definition of clutch? I posted stats by your filter and by my filters. Both make lebron look better than pierce, dirk and kobe at least. i will post more stats comparing to others. you keep crying tho.
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81
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Further proof that stats don't mean shit and eye test is the way 2 go. Thanks OP.
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by G0ATbe
Further proof that stats don't mean shit and eye test is the way 2 go. Thanks OP.
i believe the same. Just like your eye test tell you that kobe is clutch even though stats say otherwise, my eye test tell me that refs messed up the scoring and cavs actually won 2015 finals 4-0.
Final game scores are just stats. Eye test is what matters.
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15x all nba legend
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
i believe the same. Just like your eye test tell you that kobe is clutch even though stats say otherwise, my eye test tell me that refs messed up the scoring and cavs actually won 2015 finals 4-0.
Final game scores are just stats. Eye test is what matters.
Except we've actually seen Kobe hit 30+ game winners, numerous 4th quarter take overs etc etc
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Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 2:00 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead
15' Lebron 22%
http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/8ZvKj
09' kobe 50%
http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/b6tqs
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playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 5:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -5 and 5 points
15' lebron 30%
http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/Iy714
09' kobe 41%
http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/jM1CX
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by TOLATE
why pick one season when i posted career stats? are you retarded?
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National High School Star
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
I agree with you - but that's OP in a nutshell. A dishonest coward who cherry-picked these stats just so his guy could look clutch.
Checkout Bron's 4th quarter stats this past finals, specifically during the last 5 minutes of play, with no team up more than 5 (closer to your scenario). You'll get a good laugh, I assure you.
Lol, you say his stats are correct then you call him dishonest.
kuniva_dAMental
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Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Except we've actually seen Kobe hit 30+ game winners, numerous 4th quarter take overs etc etc
In 19 years of playing and being the alltime leader in shots taken and shots missed, 30 game winners on 25%... It's just not impressive.
It's not even replacement level. Derek Fischer probably blows Kobrick out of the water, he just doesnt qualify for enough attempts bc he can only get a shot when Bean misses since the dude never passes.
Are you a basketball fan or just here to suck a grown man's c0ck? Kobe plays the wrong way at the end of the game, and the stats highlight it very clearly. He tries to hog the individual glory all for himself instead of making the right play, and more than nearly any other player he comes up short bc he made a selfish decision. Point blank. Period. Da fuq you makin excuses for some stranger for??
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College superstar
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Except we've actually seen Kobe hit 30+ game winners, numerous 4th quarter take overs etc etc
but lebron has more game winners in the playoffs if i remember correctly.
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phal5
Re: Clutch Stats for Kobe, Dirk, Pierce, Allen and Wade
Originally Posted by TOLATE
Tbf LeBron was horrific these last playoffs in late-game situations. For the most part dude is actually better than most his naysayers claim.
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