Kobe Bryant vs LeBron James ( battle for the greatest of this era ) round 1

[dh144498]

hate/bias aside, Lebron is 15-20 on my list (as he should be for every unbiased person) because he failed to win the chip with 2 other top 5 players in their late 20s (primes), and disappearing in the NBA finals while getting outscored by a bench player. If he fails to win the title this year with the most stacked roster of all time (the Heat without LEbron is a championship contender), then his legacy will forever be tarnished and he will be bumped outside of the top 50 and will never have a chance at redemption.
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[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lmao all star mvps? 40 point games? what type of random arbitrary bullshit categories are those? why not use 10 assist games or 10 rebound games? Anybody can make up shit to make a player look better.

[Sakkreth]

op ain't banned yet ?

[pauk]

Kobe Bryant didnt do all that in "this era", he did that since mid 90s..... comparing accolades from a young player to Kobe who has 17 NBA years at his repertoir doesnt work either...

You have done nothing here but unintentionally given compliments to Lebron you know that right? You have just now proved that Lebron has achieved accolades etc. in a much more productive rate than Kobe and even caught up to him, how else can a guy who has completed only 9 seasons be compared to a guy who has completed 16 seasons.... ?

and lol @ adding "Lockout", what the hell does that mean? Lebron played 16 less regular season games........ what does that have to do with anything? If anything it should work in his favor considering they played a much more hectic schedule and missed 16 games where he could have only added more triple doubles, points, assists and so on...

[Is He Ill]

Hate/trolling aside though Kobe is 9-10 on my all-time list. But if he misses the playoffs this year with all these HOFs on one team he's going to be #12 on my list. If he plays next year too and does bad/misses playoffs again #14 on my list, and so on and so on.

Yeah, because that's completely logical. I mean all these hall of famers are in their primes right?

[ripthekik]

Hate/trolling aside though Kobe is 9-10 on my all-time list. But if he misses the playoffs this year with all these HOFs on one team he's going to be #12 on my list. If he plays next year too and does bad/misses playoffs again #14 on my list, and so on and so on.

dumbest guy on ISH.
So did Shaq drop 3 spots when he was with the Celtics, Suns, and CAVS and did not win?

I think we also need to drop Lebron a few spots further down.. he played with Shaq, MDE, and still lost.

[dh144498]

dumbest guy on ISH.
So did Shaq drop 3 spots when he was with the Celtics, Suns, and CAVS and did not win?

I think we also need to drop Lebron a few spots further down.. he played with Shaq, MDE, and still lost.

ether-ing TAZB the moron.

[Ne 1]

The thing is, his on the court impact is that of a top 15-20 player. It's the reason people barely have him in their top 10 lists. It's why in almost HALF the time, Lebron will be ranked in the top 10, unfortunately kicking Kobe out.

If LeBron has so much impact than how did he lose 3 straight years with home court advantage to an under seed? If he has so much impact than why is it that he had to jump on to a team with 2 other superstars in their prime along with the "other" best player in the league who was also putting together historical statistical seasons. (What he did was the equivalent to Walton and Kareem joining in '77, or Magic and Bird joining from '86-'88, Jordan and Hakeem joining in '93, or Russell and Chamberlain teaming up in the 60s, because you know why? These guys were not only thought of as the two best players in the league, but also at the same level as the other guy, just like LeBron and Wade.) And most importantly if he has so much impact how was he outplayed by a player coming off the bench in the Finals?

[tazb]

dumbest guy on ISH.
So did Shaq drop 3 spots when he was with the Celtics, Suns, and CAVS and did not win?

I think we also need to drop Lebron a few spots further down.. he played with Shaq, MDE, and still lost.

Prime Dwight former 3x defensive player of the year = 37 year old fat ass Shaq now?

[HardwoodLegend]

If LeBron has so much impact than how did he lose 3 straight years with home court advantage to an under seed? If he has so much impact than why is it that he had to jump on to a team with 2 other superstars in their prime along with the "other" best player in the league who was also putting together historical statistical seasons. (What he did was the equivalent to Walton and Kareem joining in '77, or Magic and Bird joining from '86-'88, Jordan and Hakeem joining in '93, or Russell and Chamberlain teaming up in the 60s, because you know why? These guys were not only thought of as the two best players in the league, but also at the same level as the other guy, just like LeBron and Wade.) And most importantly if he has so much impact how was he outplayed by a player coming off the bench in the Finals?

Wade and Bosh were healthy in that Finals, so sharing the ball with them cut into LeBron's stats.

When they were hobbled last year, he was able to carry them effectively.

[ripthekik]

Prime Dwight former 3x defensive player of the year = 37 year old fat ass Shaq now?

Prime Lebron = 34 year old, 17th season Kobe now?

[lebeast666]

If LeBron has so much impact than how did he lose 3 straight years with home court advantage to an under seed? If he has so much impact than why is it that he had to jump on to a team with 2 other superstars in their prime along with the "other" best player in the league who was also putting together historical statistical seasons. (What he did was the equivalent to Walton and Kareem joining in '77, or Magic and Bird joining from '86-'88, Jordan and Hakeem joining in '93, or Russell and Chamberlain teaming up in the 60s, because you know why? These guys were not only thought of as the two best players in the league, but also at the same level as the other guy, just like LeBron and Wade.) And most importantly if he has so much impact how was he outplayed by a player coming off the bench in the Finals?

So we just gonna watch LeBron waste away his prime like KG in shit hole Cleveland? You guys would've loved that.

Too bad he here in Miami now winning chips

[tazb]

Prime Lebron = 34 year old, 17th season Kobe now?

Is Kobe not having one of the best, if not the best season of his career?

[lebeast666]

Prime Lebron = 34 year old, 17th season Kobe now?

Thought Kobe was shooting career high FG%. Y'all made it sound like nikka was in his prime playing the best ball he's ever played. Ooooh Kobe with the "greatest longevity"

[chazzy]

Is Kobe not having one of the best, if not the best season of his career?

Spoken like an NBA newbie. If this is his best season, was his supporting cast in 06 better than this cast since they won more games?