Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
PG & Embiid I was really on the fence about, I would probably say no but I definitely wouldn't disagree if someone thought they were. Jokic would've probably fallen into that category by the end of last year, but the way he's playing so far, definitely not. And Dame is a great example to me a really good player who's a tier below those other guys.
What about you?
PG was top 3 in MVP voting and DPOY voting, but his PO performance history hasn't been great recently mostly because of injuries. I would still have him as a superstar though, only a handful of guys can drop 30 and lock the other team's best player down nowadays. Embiid isn't proven yet, he's still young though so he has time. I think Jokic is just being lazy atm, he put up like 28/10 against Portland so he definitely has a case. What makes you so down on Lillard?