Who had a better, more complete offensive game between Kobe and MJ?

[BedroomBully]

I need honest opinions here. IMO, it is close. They had similar styles, with Kobrick's being more aesthetically pleasing.

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Easily Kobe.

But more complete offensive game isn't synonymous with better production.



Kobe relied on his skillset more than his athleticism.

Jordan relied on his athleticism more than his skillset.


Just depends on what you like.
Same goes for the Shaq/Hakeem argument, as well.

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Obviously, Jordan's perfect blend of athleticism and skill still happens to be the most productive offensive game ever.

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Easily Kobe.

But more complete offensive game isn't synonymous with better production.



Kobe relied on his skillset more than his athleticism.

Jordan relied on his athleticism more than his skillset.


Just depends on what you like.
Same goes for the Shaq/Hakeem argument, as well.

Jordan also played with higher IQ. Kobe took a lot of stupid shots to be honest.

[FKAri]

Jordan was smarter (or more in control of his ego), more athletic and ultimately more effective. Kobe was more skilled.

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Jordan also played with higher IQ. Kobe took a lot of stupid shots to be honest.

A lot easier to OVERLY RELY on skillset rather than athleticism, tbh. His overconfidence breeds a genuine belief that he can make EVERY SHOT HE TAKES.

If Curry shot 45% from the field, you guys would DEFINITELY BE saying that he takes stupid shots. But since it works, most people are quiet about it.

[BedroomBully]

Jordan was smarter (or more in control of his ego), more athletic and ultimately more effective. Kobe was more skilled.

Its hard to argue against this. I would also give Kobe the edge in footwork. But to Kobe's demise, he chucked a lot of low-percentage shots. MJ has it all in his arsenal of weapons. He would hurt you with speed, athleticism, IQ, mid-range, post up, ect.

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Its hard to argue against this. I would also give Kobe the edge in footwork. But to Kobe's demise, he chucked a lot of low-percentage shots. MJ has it all in his arsenal of weapons. He would hurt you with speed, athleticism, IQ, mid-range, post up, ect.

Speed and athleticism shouldn't be referenced as "weapons" within an offensive arsenal, in my opinion.

I don't think you can conflate talent w/ skill in that manner. It just gets sloppy.

Because I could ask you who has the more complete offensive arsenal? Westbrook or prime Tony Parker?

[bizil]

As some of the other posters have said, Kobe was more skilled BUT MJ was the better offensive player in terms of dominance-production. Kobe was the superior three point shooter and ball handler. That's where Kobe evolved what MJ brought to the table.

But when it comes to combining freak athletic ability AND EPIC fundamentals in one, MJ and Kobe are the top two of all time. Much more athletic than Big O, Magic, Bird, West, etc. And more fundamentally sound than Bron, Wade, Westbrook, Drexler, Nique, etc.

[BedroomBully]

Speed and athleticism shouldn't be referenced as "weapons" within an offensive arsenal, in my opinion.

I don't think you can conflate talent w/ skill in that manner. It just gets sloppy.

Because I could ask you who has the more complete offensive arsenal? Westbrook or prime Tony Parker?

Easy. Westbrook.

[BedroomBully]

As some of the other posters have said, Kobe was more skilled BUT MJ was the better offensive player in terms of dominance-production. Kobe was the superior three point shooter and ball handler. That's where Kobe evolved what MJ brought to the table.

But when it comes to combining freak athletic ability AND EPIC fundamentals in one, MJ and Kobe are the top two of all time. Much more athletic than Big O, Magic, Bird, West, etc. And more fundamentally sound than Bron, Wade, Westbrook, Drexler, Nique, etc.

Valid post. The only negative thing about Kobe was his inefficiency. He would become a chucker quite to often, becoming a detriment to his team.

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Easy. Westbrook.

Not sure how long you been watching basketball. Tony Parkers tear drop was more effective than anything that Westbrook had in his arsenal.

[imnew09]

The fact that you compare the GOAT offensive player with Godbe pretty sums up how great Kobes offensive game is


MJ is a top notch and no one could be compared to him aside from Kobe

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Valid post. The only negative thing about Kobe was his inefficiency. He would become a chucker quite to often, becoming a detriment to his team.

7 finals appearances.
5 championship rings.

Don't see the detriment broham.


Michael Jordan coming down 6 possessions straight and taking 18 footers each time was a detriment to his team as well. but obviously, it's something that his teammates are grateful for.