So according to Lebron stans, nothing he has done so far in the playoffs counts

[PJR]

WOW....the level of mental damage LeBron has inflicted on Kobe fans continues to boggle the mind. I don't think we'll ever witness another athlete in our lifetime who so thoroughly owns another fanbase. There's no line Kobe fans aren't willing to cross to come off like world's biggest losers when it comes to LeBron. He just makes them so obsessive, desperate and stupid. And all for what? None of this will change the fact that is LeBron>Kobe in the world's eyes. GOD, that must be so depressing for them.

This is pretty accurate.

[TheMarkMadsen]

So far

Nobody has addressed this hypocritical logic

[Hey Yo]

So far

Nobody has addressed this hypocritical logic

So you're saying that Kyrie is first option in your mind because he's avg. more points?

[SouBeachTalents]

24/8/7 on 51% plus better defense > 25/2/6 on 47%

Although if Kyrie outscores LeBron by 10 ppg in the Finals like Shaq did with Kobe, then you'd have an argument

[TheMarkMadsen]

So you're saying that Kyrie is first option in your mind because he's avg. more points?

how else do you measure who the first option is?

[Chokefree]

Im meltingdown

Fixed

[PP34Deuce]

Correct, he is the third option,

Actually, he is more the attacker who's pulling the defense in and kicking out to wide open guys. Teams are still packing the paint so he can't get to the basket.

In before someone says, "Because he can't shoot." Yea, he can't shoot but he's still able to get in the lane and it's pulling 2 defenders in leaving wide open shots for shooters.

He's playing more like a PG than ever with a mix of big man defense. He's also been playing more off the ball along with other CAVS.

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So you're saying that Kyrie is first option in your mind because he's avg. more points?

Chill out before you kill your Shaq>>>Kobe 3peat argument little fella.

Lol. You're really wanna take this bait?

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Yea, he can't shoot but he's still able to get in the lane because it's the eastern conference

Agreed.

[Nash]

how else do you measure who the first option is?

why you stuck on the wording 'first option'.

How about asking who 'the man' is on the team?
24/8/7 makes Lebron the man.

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why you stuck on the wording 'first option'.

How about asking who 'the man' is on the team?
24/8/7 makes Lebron the man.

Kyrie has CLEARLY been the man...with MUCH LESS effort, I may add.

[SouBeachTalents]

why you stuck on the wording 'first option'.

How about asking who 'the man' is on the team?
24/8/7 makes Lebron the man.

Was just gonna post something similar, Russell, Magic, and Wilt (on his title teams) weren't their teams first options, but they were still their teams best players

[ArbitraryWater]

meltdown

[Kblaze8855]

Its always been best player. Always. Nobody ever said James worthy led teams to rings becuse he outscored Magic on several finals runs. Hell Byron scott outscored magic one or two playoff runs too you never heard that he was leading anyone anywhere. You have never heard anyone say Jojo White led the Celtics to a ring. Or that Sam Jones or Hal Greer led their teams to titles. The year Robert Parish outscored Bird in the playoffs....he sure as hell wasnt getting credit for what the team accomplished. Maurice Lucas outscored Bill Walton in 77 and 90% of ISH doesnt even know who that is.

Leading scorer can change in a night or two. The leading scorer has never mattered more than who was percieved to be the teams best player and leader.

Kobe outscored Shaq at different points during their 3peat. He took more shots. And in the end the question was....is Shaq the most dominant player ever. Nobody gave a shit what they were scoring through ____ games. And why would they? Put Damian Lilliard and Hakeem on the same team today he might well be that teams leading scorer. He would no doubt lead them in some individual series.

Nobody would call it his team or credit him with what they accomplished.

Its never worked that way. Leading scorer at the moment(over 5-6 games especially) can be anyone. The teams best player...the guy who history credits....changing that is a long process.

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Its always been best player. Always. Nobody ever said James worthy led teams to rings becuse he outscored Magic on several finals runs. Hell Byron scott outscored magic one or two playoff runs too you never heard that he was leading anyone anywhere. You have never heard anyone say Jojo White led the Celtics to a ring. Or that Sam Jones or Hal Greer led their teams to titles. The year Robert Parish outscored Bird in the playoffs....he sure as hell wasnt getting credit for what the team accomplished. Maurice Lucas outscored Bill Walton in 77 and 90% of ISH doesnt even know who that is.

Leading scorer can change in a night or two. The leading scorer has never mattered more than who was percieved to be the teams best player and leader.

Kobe outscored Shaq at different points during their 3peat. He took more shots. And in the end the question was....is Shaq the most dominant player ever. Nobody gave a shit what they were scoring through ____ games. And why would they? Put Damian Lilliard and Hakeem on the same team today he might well be that teams leading scorer. He would no doubt lead them in some individual series.

Nobody would call it his team or credit him with what they accomplished.

Its never worked that way. Leading scorer at the moment(over 5-6 games especially) can be anyone. The teams best player...the guy who history credits....changing that is a long process.

While I agree, this HAS NOT been the argument used on ISH against certain players. There has to be consistency in this regard