We've never seen how a team does without Lebron

[3ball]

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2011 Cavs

They didn't just lose Lebron - they lost other 2 starters (Shaq, Mo Williams) and 3 more key players (Varejao, Delonte, Zydrunas) - [COLOR="Navy"]these guys scored a combined 52 ppg, which is more than half the Cavs points[/COLOR].

So it's ludicrous to disregard the 52 ppg of these guys, and act like Lebron's 30 ppg was the difference in 2011..

2015 Heat

In 2014, the Heat's RS record would've placed them at the 4-6 seed out West (3-way tie for the 4-seed).. They were easily the Spurs' worst opponent in those playoffs, since they had a 15-point disadvantage in ORtg against the Spurs (a record), compared to only 3 points, 6 points and 8 points for Mavs, OKC and Blazers, respectively.

Accordingly, the 2014 Heat were a 1st or 2nd Round team out West that fell to a lottery team in 2015 (due to injuries to Bosh/Wade).. The only reason their drop-off seems bigger is because they played in a worst-ever Eastern Conference.

More importantly - Bosh and Wade's prime was over by the time Lebron left - he used up their primes, and then jumped ship like a bitch..

So as you can see, we've never seen how a team would perform without Lebron because each time he jumped ship, half the team ALSO left, or the team had injuries and was past their prime...

[ShawkFactory]

Why do you indent all of your text?

[90sgoat]

[3ball]

Why do you indent all of your text?

It's called an outline format

[AirBonner]

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2011 Cavs

They didn't just lose Lebron - they lost other 2 starters (Shaq, Mo Williams) and 3 more key players (Varejao, Delonte, Zydrunas) - [COLOR="Navy"]these guys scored a combined 52 ppg, which is more than half the Cavs points[/COLOR].

So it's ludicrous to disregard the 52 ppg of these guys, and act like Lebron's 30 ppg was the difference in 2011..

2015 Heat

In 2014, the Heat's RS record would've placed them at the 4-6 seed out West (3-way tie for the 4-seed).. They were easily the Spurs' worst opponent in those playoffs, since they had a 15-point disadvantage in ORtg against the Spurs (a record), compared to only 3 points, 6 points and 8 points for Mavs, OKC and Blazers, respectively.

Accordingly, the 2014 Heat were a 1st or 2nd Round team out West that fell to a lottery team in 2015 (due to injuries to Bosh/Wade).. The only reason their drop-off seems bigger is because they played in a worst-ever Eastern Conference.

More importantly - Bosh and Wade's prime was over by the time Lebron left - he used up their primes, and then jumped ship like a bitch..

So as you can see, we've never seen how a team would perform without Lebron...

The cavs went to the lottery every year Lebron wasn't on the team. What more PROOF do you need.

[ShawkFactory]

It's called an outline format

Why do you do it? It's stupid for this medium

[3ball]

Why do you do it? It's stupid for this medium

I feel like it makes posts easier to read

[j3lademaster]

Why do you do it? It's stupid for this medium

Why is it stupid? It's more presentable. Would you prefer a wall of text?

[lilteapot]

Why is it stupid? It's more presentable. Would you prefer a wall of text?

None of the stupid bullshit OP's lonely, virgin bitch ass ever posts will ever be presentable.

[riseagainst]

Very well done thread.

OP used nothing but facts and truths to backup his claim.

[SouBeachTalents]

'94 & '95 Bulls >>>>>>>>>> '11-'14 Cavs

[BeastMode24]

The cavs went to the lottery every year Lebron wasn't on the team. What more PROOF do you need.

heat are about to make the conference finals without bron.

[3ball]

heat are about to make the conference finals without bron.

very true - heat will make conference finals without Lebron, while the Bulls couldn't win 2nd Round without Jordan

[Velocirap31]

Why don't you just refer to regular season W-L records without Lebron. Exact same team without him in those instances.

[AirBonner]

very true - heat will make conference finals without Lebron, while the Bulls couldn't win 2nd Round without Jordan

What about the first year after they both left? don't want to compare that huh?