MVP voting has become a joke

[Hondo]

Derrick Rose and Steve Nash have no right to any MVPs

[Clippersfan86]

Derrick Rose and Steve Nash have no right to any MVPs

Especially with the high caliber players in the league like just out of prime Shaq.. or in prime Kobe etc.

[Hondo]

Especially with the high caliber players in the league like just out of prime Shaq.. or in prime Kobe etc.

Also prime Howard, James, Wade

[iamgine]

Nash led his team to #1 record.

[L.Kizzle]

Nash led his team to #1 record.

So did Shawn Kemp?

[Hondo]

Nash led his team to #1 record.

So did Zydrunas Ilgauskas

[Hondo]

Nash led his team to #1 record.

So did Clyde Drexler

[Hondo]

Nash led his team to #1 record.

So did Ben Wallace and co

So did Jermaine O'Neal

So did Earl Monroe/ Wes Unseld

Point being, that does not qualify you to be an MVP

[SteveNashMVPcro]

Phoenix won 29 games in the 2003/2004 season.By adding Nash they won 62 adn also they were only 2-5 without Nash

[iamgine]

So did Ben Wallace and co

So did Jermaine O'Neal

So did Earl Monroe/ Wes Unseld

Point being, that does not qualify you to be an MVP

Their team was more balanced while Suns reliant on Nash was well established.

[Odinn]

2011 - Rose (Bulls #1 in the L.)
2010 - LeBron (Cavs #1)
2009 - LeBron (Cavs #1)
2008 - Kobe (Lakers #3)
2007 - Dirk (Mavs #1)
2006 - Nash (Suns #4)
2005 - Nash (Suns #1)
2004 - Garnett (Wolves #2)
2003 - Duncan (Spurs #1)
2002 - Duncan (Spurs #2)
2001 - Iverson (Sixers #3)
2000 - Shaq (Lakers #1)
1999 - K. Malone (Jazz #2)
1998 - Jordan (Bulls #2)
1997 - K. Malone (Jazz #2)
1996 - Jordan (Bulls #1)
1995 - DRob (Spurs #1)
1994 - Hakeem (Rockets #2)
1993 - Barkley (Suns #1)
1992 - Jordan (Bulls #1)
1991 - Jordan (Bulls #2)
1990 - Magic (Lakers #1)
1989 - Magic (Lakers #2)
1988 - Jordan (Bulls #7)
1987 - Magic (Lakers #1)
1986 - Bird (Celtics #1)
1985 - Bird (Celtics #1)
1984 - Bird (Celtics #1)
1983 - Moses (Sixers #1)
1982 - Moses (Rockets #9)
1981 - Erving (Sixers #2)
1980 - Kareem (Lakers #2)
1979 - Moses (Rockets #8) (Bullets led the L with 54W, Rockets 47W)
1978 - B. Walton (Blazers #1)
1977 - Kareem (Lakers #1)

Post-merger era, 35 seasons completed and 19 times the best player of the league leader team won the MVP award.
Only 6 times, a player won it who isn't a part of league's best 2 teams.
Only 4 times, a player won it who isn't a part of league's best 3 teams.

[ballerz]

It baffles me that prime shaq only won ONE mvp. he should at least have two or three

[nathanjizzle]

wow stop bitching and crying about the mvp award. Derrick rose deserved it, he was the most valubale player to his team and the league. dwight howard didnt even get passed the first round because hes so valuable.

[pauk]

2011 - Rose (Bulls #1 in the L.)
2010 - LeBron (Cavs #1)
2009 - LeBron (Cavs #1)
2008 - Kobe (Lakers #3)
2007 - Dirk (Mavs #1)
2006 - Nash (Suns #4)
2005 - Nash (Suns #1)
2004 - Garnett (Wolves #2)
2003 - Duncan (Spurs #1)
2002 - Duncan (Spurs #2)
2001 - Iverson (Sixers #3)
2000 - Shaq (Lakers #1)
1999 - K. Malone (Jazz #2)
1998 - Jordan (Bulls #2)
1997 - K. Malone (Jazz #2)
1996 - Jordan (Bulls #1)
1995 - DRob (Spurs #1)
1994 - Hakeem (Rockets #2)
1993 - Barkley (Suns #1)
1992 - Jordan (Bulls #1)
1991 - Jordan (Bulls #2)
1990 - Magic (Lakers #1)
1989 - Magic (Lakers #2)
1988 - Jordan (Bulls #7)
1987 - Magic (Lakers #1)
1986 - Bird (Celtics #1)
1985 - Bird (Celtics #1)
1984 - Bird (Celtics #1)
1983 - Moses (Sixers #1)
1982 - Moses (Rockets #9)
1981 - Erving (Sixers #2)
1980 - Kareem (Lakers #2)
1979 - Moses (Rockets #8) (Bullets led the L with 54W, Rockets 47W)
1978 - B. Walton (Blazers #1)
1977 - Kareem (Lakers #1)

Post-merger era, 35 seasons completed and 19 times the best player of the league leader team won the MVP award.
Only 6 times, a player won it who isn't a part of league's best 2 teams.
Only 4 times, a player won it who isn't a part of league's best 3 teams.

and:

Only 1 time, a player won it who isn't a part of league's top 5 or even top 8 players maybe....

lebron
dwight
wade
kobe
dirk
durant
carmelo
amare?
griffin?
love?
monta ellis?
randolph?
bosh?
healthy cp3?
nash?

u could even argue he isnt top 10 lol...

but whatever.. Rose diserved it the most based on the typical MVP criteria... (Best player on the best team/team record)

[ShaqAttack3234]

The award has progressively become a media creation, where members of the press collectively hype up a player during the season as being "deserving" -- and voila -- he wins the MVP.

The system suffered through wobbles in the past, with Malone and Barkley winning over Jordan, but completely went off the rails in 2005 with Nash over Shaq. The "voters" then compounded their mistake in the next year, and the award has never regained its prestige since.

Malone over Jordan in '97 was the wrong choice as well, imo. But the biggest problem I have with that selection is that if Chicago hadn't won 70+ games the previous season then I'm positive he wins in '97. Which is because the voters would have given him the '97 award for tying what would have still been the record of 69 wins. That wouldn't have made him any more or less valuable in '97 if that was still a record, but it's obvious the voters would have factored it in.

I have no problem with Barkley winning in '93, Charles was a real force himself, and had to carry Phoenix quite a bit to get them to the best record with KJ missing a lot of time and not performing at his usual level. Though I would've picked Hakeem in '93.

Actually the team's offense played more confidently without him. When he was getting suspended those games his team played with verve they didn't have with him. In the playoffs when he had that near 50/20 game they lost convincingly. The only game the Magic dominated was when he went 1 for 4 in the field for a 8 point 8 rebound game and 1 block in 29 minutes.

You're talking about 1 game where his cast performed well, there's not much evidence to suggest that they played better offensively without him considering they were just 1-3 without him.

The 1 win was early when they still had Vince Carter who had a 25 point/9 assist game vs Detroit on 10/15 shooting, and that certainly wasn't normal for Carter last season even when he played in Phoenix without Dwight.

Then they lost to Milwaukee and scored only 85 points, also lost to Portland scored just 85 and they lost to Chicago(though they did score 99).

I'll agree with you that getting suspended for those technicals was poor judgement.

wow stop bitching and crying about the mvp award. Derrick rose deserved it, he was the most valubale player to his team and the league. dwight howard didnt even get passed the first round because hes so valuable.

Because Dwight couldn't get away with shooting under 40% and having the best defense backing him up.

Here's what Dwight's cast did vs Atlanta.

Nelson- 13/4/5, 38 FG%
Turkoglu- 9/3/4, 29 FG%
Richardson- 10/4/1, 33 FG% (missed a game)
Anderson- 5/5, 27 FG%
Bass- 7/4, 42 FG%
Redick- 7/2/1, 37 FG%

You do realize that Dwight got to the conference finals last season without playing nearly as well as he did this year, got to the finals in 2009 and he wasn't as good as he is now and he got to the 2nd round in 2008 when he wasn't anywhere near the player he is now. Why? Because he had better casts then.