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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix
    Several modern GOAT level players have 'comparable' accolades to MJ by 31 years old:

    Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 5 rings, 12 seasons
    Bird- 5 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 Rings, 7 seasons
    Duncan- 4 finals, 4 rings, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
    Shaq - 4 finals, 3 Rings, 1 MVP, 12 seasons
    1) None of them have more MVPs
    2) Why did you post "rings" and not FMVPs

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    try again, updated with factual info:

    Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 FMVP, 12 seasons
    Bird- 5 finals, 2 FMVP, 3 MVPs, 7 seasons
    Duncan- 4 finals, 3 FMVP, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
    Shaq - 4 finals, 3 FMVP 1 MVP, 12 seasons

    So basically Manny was right...Not a single player has more MVPs or FMVP and LeBron had the most Finals appearances as well. : You're only proving his point more. LeBron either has more FMVPs or MVPs and Finals appearances than EVERY player you listed. Too easy my guy

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball

    ... How do you respond to MJ being far more dominant:


    Stats Thru 31 Years Old:


    [COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN. REG SEAS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON[COLOR="White"]f[/COLOR] REG SEAS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN. PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON[COLOR="White"]f[/COLOR] PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER


    [COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN FINALS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON[COLOR="White"][/COLOR] FINALS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.0 ppg.[COLOR="White"]f[/COLOR] 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg



    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.[/COLOR]
    Keep runnin Manny..

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Because what you do at your absolute best is what matters the most and LeBron was better than everyone else

    Post 31 isn't your Prime so it doesn't count

    Ok. So if Lebron somehow wins a title this year( possible if Golden state, about 4-5 other Western squads and the same amount of eastern ones all get sucked into a vortex), then it shouldn't count towards his legacy because he was past the arbitrary age you consider those accolades to count.

    Of course, the only reason you're coming up with such an asinine concept is a thinly veiled attempt to trivialize the fact that MJ won the same number of titles in 3 years( 96-98), from 33 to 35, that it's taken Lebron 16 years to win. Does that thought make you want to deepthroat a shotgun?

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    ... How do you respond to MJ being far more dominant:


    Stats Thru 31 Years Old:


    [COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN. REG SEAS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON[COLOR="White"]f[/COLOR] REG SEAS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN. PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON[COLOR="White"]f[/COLOR] PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER


    [COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN FINALS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON[COLOR="White"][/COLOR] FINALS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.0 ppg.[COLOR="White"]f[/COLOR] 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg



    [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.[/COLOR]
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    Half the finals appearances, getting destroyed before the finals every year, less MVPs, much less impressive teams beaten is more dominant?

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    So just to square things up after Phoenix's awful history lesson post...

    So, no one has more FMVPs or MVPs or Finals appearances by 31? Thanks for the update

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Half the finals appearances, getting destroyed before the finals every year, less MVPs, much less impressive teams beaten is more dominant?

    1-9

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    The day Pippen saved MJ's career.

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    1) None of them have more MVPs
    2) Why did you post "rings" and not FMVPs

    #caught

    try again, updated with factual info:

    Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 FMVP, 12 seasons
    Bird- 5 finals, 2 FMVP, 3 MVPs, 7 seasons
    Duncan- 4 finals, 3 FMVP, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
    Shaq - 4 finals, 3 FMVP 1 MVP, 12 seasons
    First, I said comparable. Second, not those players fault it takes Lebron several times more finals appearances, or seasons played to achieve similar rings counts/MVPs/ FMVPs.

    Back on suicide watch you go...

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    So just to square things up after Phoenix's awful history lesson post...

    So, no one has more FMVPs or MVPs or Finals appearances by 31? Thanks for the update
    So no-one has needed more finals appearances by 31 just to end up with the same ring count? How unfortunate

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix
    Ok. So if Lebron somehow wins a title this year( possible if Golden state, about 4-5 other Western squads and the same amount of eastern ones all get sucked into a vortex), then it shouldn't count towards his legacy because he was past the arbitrary age you consider those accolades to count.

    Of course, the only reason you're coming up with such an asinine concept is a thinly veiled attempt to trivialize the fact that MJ won the same number of titles in 3 years( 96-98), from 33 to 35, that it's taken Lebron 16 years to win. Does that thought make you want to deepthroat a shotgun?
    Sorry but we are discussing what they did in their PRIME this picture must sting for you Jordan fanboys knowing that LeBron at his best was better and accomplished more than Jordan at his best


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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    None of them better than LeBron

    7 finals ,4 MVPs ,3 alpha rings,13 seasons

    Including taking down 73 win teams and multiple 30 PER seasons
    So you agree Lebron needs a lot more seasons to get the same number of rings and FMVPs. Thanks for wrapping that up for us in a single post.

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Sorry but we are discussing what they did in their PRIME this picture must sting for you Jordan fanboys knowing that LeBron at his best was better than Jordan at his best

    In this comparison Bran has 4 more seasons than Jordan yet they have the same chips and FMVPs

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Sorry but we are discussing what they did in their PRIME this picture must sting for you Jordan fanboys knowing that LeBron at his best was better and accomplished more than Jordan at his best

    Ah, so Lebron getting a triple double against the Warriors in 2017 shouldn't be part of any discussions going forward about their respective greatness, since he was 32 going 33. Thanks, got that cleared up now.

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Half the finals appearances, getting destroyed before the finals every year, less MVPs, much less impressive teams beaten is more dominant?
    MJ won the same rings in 4 less seasons and all his opponents > 11' Mavs or 09' magic

    Also, you left off scoring titles, dpoy, and steals titles.. 7 scoring titles for mj and dpoy, to 1 and zero for lefraud

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    Default Re: Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix
    So you agree Lebron needs a lot more seasons to get the same number of rings and FMVPs. Thanks for wrapping that up for us in a single post.
    Crushing manny

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