Do Kobe fans realize that Kobe averaged less ppg on lower efficiency than Lebron

[SouBeachTalents]

MVP - media hype
FMVP - media hype
Regular Season stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket
Post Season/Finals stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket and a MUCH better Finals Record

No, it's just that LeBron's been the best player in more regular seasons and Finals than Kobe has. Not only that, all of his MVP's & FMVP's are indisputable, while Kobe's MVP is very debatable, and a lot of people feel the same about his second FMVP. And Kobe has a "MUCH" better Finals record because he had Shaq averaging 35/15 in the Finals for 3 straight titles

[toprange]

No, it's just that LeBron's been the best player in more regular seasons and Finals than Kobe has. Not only that, all of his MVP's & FMVP's are indisputable, while Kobe's MVP is very debatable, and a lot of people feel the same about his second FMVP. And Kobe has a "MUCH" better Finals record because he had Shaq averaging 35/15 in the Finals for 3 straight titles

Kobe is MUCH better than lebron. These are FACTS

MVP - media hype
FMVP - media hype
Regular Season stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket
Post Season/Finals stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket and a MUCH better Finals Record

[aj1987]

Kobe is MUCH better than lebron. These are FACTS

MVP - media hype
FMVP - media hype
Regular Season stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket
Post Season/Finals stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket and a MUCH better Finals Record

Midrange:

LeBron - 38.4%
Kobe - 40.2%

3 point:

LeBron - 34%
Kobe - 32.9%

Finals:

LeBron - 27/10/7/2/1 on 57% TS
Kobe - 25/6/5/2/1 on 54% TS

tl;dr - LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chokebe

[Lord P]

Kobe is MUCH better than lebron. These are FACTS

MVP - media hype
FMVP - media hype
Regular Season stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket
Post Season/Finals stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket and a MUCH better Finals Record

Kobe also has lower general field goal percentage while averaging less ppg.
Kobe was carried to 3 rings by the MDE while being a 40% finals scorer in his only two rings without shaq.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe is MUCH better than lebron. These are FACTS

MVP - media hype
FMVP - media hype
Regular Season stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket
Post Season/Finals stats - Kobe has a MUCH better FG% outside 0-2 feet from the basket and a MUCH better Finals Record

Repeated the same exact argument word for word, not even a remote attempt at a rebuttal

[toprange]

Midrange:

LeBron - 38.4%
Kobe - 40.2%

3 point:

LeBron - 34%
Kobe - 32.9%

Finals:

LeBron - 27/10/7/2/1 on 57% TS
Kobe - 25/6/5/2/1 on 54% TS

tl;dr - LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chokebe

Here are both their playoff fg% by distance (measured by feet from the basket)


Lebron
FG% by distance
0-2 72%
3-9 38%
10-15 34%
16<3 36%
3P 32%


Kobe
FG% by distance
0-2 61%
3-9 47%
10-15 45%
16<3 40%
3P 33%


Lebron shoots less than 40% outside of 2 feet from the basket. That is terrible. This is why lebron is not considered a REAL clutch player. He is limited to shots that are within 0-2 feet from the basket.

[Mr Feeny]

Here are both their playoff fg% by distance (measured by feet from the basket)


Lebron
FG% by distance
0-2 72%
3-9 38%
10-15 34%
16<3 36%
3P 32%


Kobe
FG% by distance
0-2 61%
3-9 47%
10-15 45%
16<3 40%
3P 33%


Lebron shoots less than 40% outside of 2 feet from the basket. That is terrible. This is why lebron is not considered a REAL clutch player. He is limited to shots that are within 0-2 feet from the basket.

What's their overall fg% in the playoffs?

[aj1987]

Here are both their playoff fg% by distance (measured by feet from the basket)


Lebron
FG% by distance
0-2 72%
3-9 38%
10-15 34%
16<3 36%
3P 32%


Kobe
FG% by distance
0-2 61%
3-9 47%
10-15 45%
16<3 40%
3P 33%


Lebron shoots less than 40% outside of 2 feet from the basket. That is terrible. This is why lebron is not considered a REAL clutch player. He is limited to shots that are within 0-2 feet from the basket.

Kobe - 54% TS in the PO's
LeBron - 57% TS in the PO's

Kobe - 25/6/5/2/1 on 54% in the Finals
LeBron - 27/10/7/2/1 on 57% in the Finals

[AirBonner]

Lol kobetard's have to break down the offense of Lebron to have ANY sort of argument. The goal is to put the ball in the hoop. Which lebron does better. FACT.

[Mr Feeny]

Lol kobetard's have to break down the offense of Lebron to have ANY sort of argument. The goal is to put the ball in the hoop. Which lebron does better. FACT.

Kobtards have been on suicide watch since 18 wins and 35% shooting for the season

[toprange]

Lol kobetard's have to break down the offense of Lebron to have ANY sort of argument. The goal is to put the ball in the hoop. Which lebron does better. FACT.

Advanced stats too much for you?

[AirBonner]

Advanced stats too much for you?

Are facts too much for you?

[HurricaneKid]

[QUOTE=LostCause]"Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.

[toprange]

Kobe's Great.
Lebron's Great.

Lebron is considered greater by a great deal of people.
Kobe is considered greater by less, though still alot.

Can we please go home?

Kobe is considered greater by great deal of PLAYERS
Lebron is considered greater by FAR LESS.

Now you can go home

[Bankaii]

Using career PPG is basically useless. Kobe played with Shaq half of his career, who the Lakers primarily built and played their offense around. Kobe was more than efficient in TS% so I'm also not sure why people are acting like he was below league average.

Kobe is the better scorer.

More scoring records, ability, and skills. The variety in ways dude can score also makes him LESS prone to being stopped in an isolated possession.

Using career ppg is only useless because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Kobe FGA from 2000-2010: 21.5
Lebron FGA from 2006-16: 19.7

If anything playing with Shaq should have boosted his efficiency and helped him score more becausenhenwas still taking the same amount of FGA.

Using regular season scoring records as a means to justify your claim
Why not use playoffs stats? Why not use PO/Finals 30/40/50 point games and records?
Despite the fact that all objective measures says otherwise, Kobe still is the better scorer? Clown