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Titles are overrated
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
does a dog learn after the first time you slap him with a rolled up news paper?
no... animals need constant reinforcement to learn
as long as people degrade one of the top 4-5 resumes in nba history. i'l continue proving them wrong
It isnt one of the 4-5 greatest resumes. Its you listing shit nobody has ever cared about or judged people by and making it out to mean more than it does to a game of basketball and more than it does to the greatness of a career.
But...you are free to do so. You just dont need to do it every day in new topics. I linked you to the other one...which just went quiet a day or two ago.
Feel free to discuss Kobe all day and night. Just keep it there since its literally the same information.
Make a new one...when you have something else to say. Making 4-5 topics with the same information in them in short periods of time just to start arguments is pretty much textbook "trolling".
Go argue about Kobe in your other topic. You wont see me pop up to bother you.
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Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
It isnt one of the 4-5 greatest resumes. Its you listing shit nobody has ever cared about or judged people by and making it out to mean more than it does to a game of basketball and more than it does to the greatness of a career.
But...you are free to do so. You just dont need to do it every day in new topics. I linked you to the other one...which just went quiet a day or two ago.
Feel free to discuss Kobe all day and night. Just keep it there since its literally the same information.
Make a new one...when you have something else to say. Making 4-5 topics with the same information in them in short periods of time just to start arguments is pretty much textbook "trolling".
Go argue about Kobe in your other topic. You wont see me pop up to bother you.
depends on what you value more
entire careers or just the basic 1 or 2 media awards
a guy like steve nash suddenly looks almost as accomplished as kobe
but when we actually break down careers. nash has no records. almost no 1st teams, no defensive teams, no averages, no big games, no milestones, no real achivements
but the media voted for him a few times. that makes up for him being mediocre or a loser most of his life
this is why you have to actually break down everything.
common you're a mod. you must know a thing or 2 about basketball
show me youre not just a mod because you made some nice youtube clips and spend all day online and got siniority
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The Wizard
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
depends on what you value more
entire careers or just the basic 1 or 2 media awards
a guy like steve nash suddenly looks almost as accomplished as kobe
but when we actually break down careers. nash has no records. almost no 1st teams, no defensive teams, no averages, no big games, no milestones, no real achivements
but the media voted for him a few times. that makes up for him being mediocre or a loser most of his life
this is why you have to actually break down everything.
common you're a mod. you must know a thing or 2 about basketball
show me youre not just a mod because you made some nice youtube clips and spend all day online and got siniority
Ban bait
Seniority BTW.
You could make a whole long post of cherry picked qualifications for Nash too and try to prop him up. None of his fans are as immature, stubborn, or ignorant as you (which is why we don't see threads like that).
Last edited by ralph_i_el; 07-28-2014 at 01:25 PM.
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National High School Star
Re: Where does this rank all time
Jordan
Kareem
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq
Bird
Magic
Hakeem
Lebron
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Lol
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by Jlamb47
Jordan
Kareem
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq
Bird
Magic
Hakeem
Lebron
There were two guys named Wilt Chamberlain and Bil Russell. I heard they were pretty good.
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Bear Chested Da Brawn
Re: Where does this rank all time
if NBA fans wasn't full of bumbling apes but intellectuals who respected history and longevity than Kobe is consensus top 5
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Greatest
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
depends on what you value more
entire careers or just the basic 1 or 2 media awards
Stop creating false dichotomies.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Where does this rank all time
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The Wizard
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by STATUTORY
if NBA fans wasn't full of bumbling apes but intellectuals who respected history and longevity than Kobe is consensus top 5
NBA fans are full of bumbling apes? You must be full of bad grammar, along with bad opinions.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: Where does this rank all time
You do realize you're using things like his 2014 All-Star to make your case right? Just want to make sure.
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Titles are overrated
Re: Where does this rank all time
common you're a mod. you must know a thing or 2 about basketball
show me youre not just a mod because you made some nice youtube clips and spend all day online and got siniority
I have no desire to show you anything. Arguing with you about Kobe is like arguing with the Cookie Monster about cookies. It doesnt matter how compelling your case might be for brownies...
Hes the gotdamn Cookie Monster....
He sides with cookies.
You have wasted your time and accomplished nothing by engaging him on the subject.
I only wanted to explain my reasoning if I close your topic and direct people to the other.
Nobody is saying dont talk about Kobe.
Dont make the same topic 6 times a month with no new information.....
That isnt asking too much.
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Laker Nation
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
Kobe Bryant = all time record most 1st team all nba's and All NBA teams period
1998-99 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
1999-00 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2000-01 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2001-02 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2002-03 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2003-04 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2004-05 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
Kobe Bryant = all time record most 1st team all defensive
1999-00 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2000-01 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2001-02 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2002-03 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2003-04 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
Kobe Bryant = All time record most game winning shots
1. May 09, 1999: Lakers 101 - Rockets 100 (PO, game-winning FTs w/ 5.3 secs)
2. Dec. 27, 1999: Lakers 108 - Mavericks 106 (game-winning FTs w/ 8.6 secs)
3. May 10, 2000: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (PO, jumper over Kidd w/ 2.6 secs)
4. Feb. 07, 2001: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (jumper over Marion w/ 2.7 sec)
5. Feb. 13, 2001: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT layup/and-1 w/ 4.8 secs)
6. Jan. 02, 2002: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (off-reb and jumper w/ 55 secs)
7. Feb. 22, 2002: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (buzzer-beater, jumper over Lynch)
8. May 12, 2002: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (PO, off-reb and put-back w/ 5.1 secs)
9. Dec. 06, 2002: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (turn-around jumper w/ 8 secs)
10. April 04, 2003: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (buzzer beater, jumper over Battier)
11. April 06, 2003: Lakers 115 - Suns 113 (OT, game-tying jumper for OT, jumper over Marion w/ 28.6 sec)
12. Dec. 19, 2003: Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99 (buzzer-beater, fade-away over Barry)
13. Mar. 21, 2004: Lakers 104 - Bucks 103 (OT jumper over Van Horn w/ 25.1 sec)
14. April 14, 2004: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT buzzer beater, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, fall-away 3-pointer)
15. Mar. 12, 2005: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (jumper over Bogans w/ 0.9 secs)
16. Nov. 02, 2005: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT jumper over Najera w/ 0.6 secs)
17. Dec. 04, 2005: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (game-winning FTs w/ 7 secs)
18. Jan. 12, 2006: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (jumper over James w/ 8.6 secs)
19. April 30, 2006: Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (PO, OT buzzer-beater, game-tying tear-drop for OT, jumper over Diaw)
20. Jan. 14, 2008: Lakers 123 - Sonics 121 (OT jumper over Green w/ 4.3 secs)
21. Jan. 09, 2009: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (jumper over Jack w/ 3 secs)
22. Dec. 04, 2009: Lakers 108 - Heat 107 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer over Wade)
23. Dec. 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106 (OT buzzer-beater, jumper over Bell)
24. Jan. 01, 2010: Lakers 109 - Kings 108 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer)
25. Jan. 31, 2010: Lakers 90 - Celtics 89 (jumper over Allen w/ 7.3 secs)
26. Feb. 23, 2010: Lakers 99 - Grizzlies 98 (3-pointer over Gay w/ 4.3 secs)
27. Mar. 09, 2010: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (jumper over Wright w/ 1.9 secs)
28. Feb. 12, 2012: Lakers 93 – Raptors 92 (jumper over Johnson w/ 4.2 secs)
Eventual-Game Winners:
1. June 14, 2000: Lakers 120 - Pacers 118 (NBA Finals, OT off-reb and put-back w/ 5.9 secs) *Technical foul called against Fox w/ 5.9 secs, +FT
2. Nov. 16, 2000: Lakers 112 - Kings 110 (OT, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, jumper over Divac w/ 24 secs) *Kings intentially foul Bryant w/ 4 secs, +2FTs
3. Mar. 24, 2002: Lakers 97 - Kings 96 (jumper over Christie w/ 36 secs) *Webber jump-hook w/ 29 secs
4. Dec. 22, 2002: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (layup over Peterson w/ 33.2 secs) *Raptors intentially foul Horry w/ 8.5 secs, +FT
5. May 11, 2003: Lakers 99 - Spurs 95 (PO, FT w/ 48 secs) *Spurs intentially foul Bryant (twice) w/ 14.2 secs, +3FTs
6. Feb. 17, 2004: Lakers 89 - Blazers 86 (left-handed layup w/ 31.8 secs) *Blazers intentially foul Bryant w/ 7 secs, +FT
7. Mar. 03, 2004: Lakers 96 - Rockets 93 (jumper over Yao w/ 32 secs) *Rockets intentially foul Fisher w/ 9.8 secs, +2FTs
8. April 25, 2004: Lakers 92 - Rockets 88 (PO, OT layup/and-1 over Mobley /w 40 secs) *Rockets intentially foul Malone w/ 6 secs, +FT
9. Jan. 07, 2006: Lakers 112 - Clippers 109 (tear-drop over Brand w/ 11 secs) *Parker fastbreak-dunk w/ 4.4 secs
10. May 21, 2008: Lakers 89 - Spurs 85 (PO, jumper w/ 23.9 secs) *Spurs intentionally foul Vujacic w/ 7 secs, +2FTs
11. Jan. 13, 2009: Lakers 105 - Rockets 100 (3-pointer over Battier w/ 27 secs) *Rockets intentially foul Gasol (twice) w/ 7 secs, +3FTs
12. Jan. 13, 2010: Lakers 100 - Mavericks 95 (jumper over Howard w/ 28 secs) *Mavericks intentionally foul Farmar w/ 5 secs, +3FTs
13. Mar. 31, 2012: Lakers 88 – Hornets 83 (3-pointer over Jack w/ 20.2 secs) *Hornets intentionally foul Barnes w/ 2 secs, +2FTs
Kobe Bryant = all time record most playoff 50+ win teams beatin
1997-98 Seattle SuperSonics Record: 61-21
1999-00 Phoenix Suns Record: 53-29
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 59-23
1999-00 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2000-01 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 50-32
2000-01 Sacramento Kings Record: 55-27
2000-01 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers Record: 56-26
2001-02 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2001-02 Sacramento Kings Record: 61-21
2001-02 New Jersey Nets Record: 52-30
2002-03 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 51-31
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs Record: 57-25
2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 58-24
2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32
total = 24
Kobe Bryant = most all time consecutive all-star appearances
1998 NBA All-Star
1999 - no allstar game -
2000 NBA All-Star
2001 NBA All-Star
2002 NBA All-Star
2003 NBA All-Star
2004 NBA All-Star
2005 NBA All-Star
2006 NBA All-Star
2007 NBA All-Star
2008 NBA All-Star
2009 NBA All-Star
2010 NBA All-Star
2011 NBA All-Star
2012 NBA All-Star
2013 NBA All-Star
2014 NBA All-Star
Kobe Bryant = all time record most all star game most valuable player awards
2001-02 NBA All-Star Game MVP
2006-07 NBA All-Star Game MVP
2008-09 NBA All-Star Game MVP
2010-11 NBA All-Star Game MVP
Kobe Bryant = all time record most three pointers made in one game
Kobe Bryant = tied for all time record with Jason Kidd ( undefeted international record with atleast 3+ tenurs )
Kobe Bryant = all time record Most All-Star Game points scored, career: 271
Kobe Bryant = Youngest player to score 31,000 points: (34 years, 185 days)
Kobe Bryant = Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Defensive Team: (1999–00)
Kobe Bryant = Youngest player to start a game: (18 years, 158 days)
Kobe Bryant = Youngest player to win the NBA Slam Dunk Championship: (18 years, 169 days)
Kobe Bryant = Youngest player to start an All-Star game: (19 years, 169 days)[49]
Kobe Bryant = Only player in NBA history to score at least 600 points in the postseason for three consecutive years. 633 (2008), 695 (2009), 671 (2010)
Kobe Bryant = 2nd all time Games scoring 60 points or more, career: 5 (as of March 22, 2011)
Kobe Bryant = 3rd all time Games scoring 50 points or more, career: 24 (as of March 22, 2011)
Kobe Bryant = 3rd all time Games scoring 40 points or more, career: 114 (as of January 13, 2012)
Kobe Bryant = 2nd all time Most points scored in a single game: 81
oh yeah and
- 7 time nba finals
- 5 time nba champion
- 3 peat nba champion
- 3 time back 2 back nba champion
- 2 time finals mvp
- 1 time back 2 back finals mvp
- 1 time season mvp
srsly wtf. It's like that question about how many squares do you see in this picture.
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National High School Star
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by RRR3
There were two guys named Wilt Chamberlain and Bil Russell. I heard they were pretty good.
heard they played against bunch of weak white boys too
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The Wizard
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
I have no desire to show you anything. Arguing with you about Kobe is like arguing with the Cookie Monster about cookies. It doesnt matter how compelling your case might be for brownies...
Hes the gotdamn Cookie Monster....
He sides with cookies.
You have wasted your time and accomplished nothing by engaging him on the subject.
I only wanted to explain my reasoning if I close your topic and direct people to the other.
Nobody is saying dont talk about Kobe.
Dont make the same topic 6 times a month with no new information.....
That isnt asking too much.
COOKIES WERE SELECTED FIRST TEAM ALL SNACK FOR 20 STRAIGHT SEASONS Arghelbargle
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Greatest
Re: Where does this rank all time
Originally Posted by riseagainst
srsly wtf. It's like that question about how many squares do you see in this picture.
5 arguments for Kobe:
5 time champion
3 peat
2 peat
3 time b2b champion
1 time consecutive b2b champion
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