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    Default Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    No one stat is perfect, but when all the variety of stats give one answer, then that answer is the fact.

    PER has its uses, but it's not perfect.
    Win Share has its uses, but it's not perfect.
    MVP share has its uses, but it's not perfect...

    But...

    All time career PER:
    1. Michael Jordan 27.91
    2. Lebron James 27.75
    3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43

    All time career win share/48:
    1. Michael Jordan 0.2505
    2. David Robinson 0.2502
    3. Wilt Chamberlain 0.2480

    All time career MVP share*:
    1. Michael Jordan 8.138
    2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6.203
    3. Larry Bird 5.693

    *MVP share is a career cumulative stat, Jordan had almost 2 MORE MVP shares than Kareem despite playing 4 LESS seasons

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Jordan is the most efficient, most impactful, and most valuable player of all time.

    GOAT gonna GOAT

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
    What's his playoffs stats looking like?

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    cool but plenty of people consider
    kareem > mj

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by AnaheimLakers24
    cool but plenty of people consider
    kareem > mj
    Not really. When you eliminate the LeBron and Kobe stans, there are very few people who consider anyone other than MJ to be the GOAT.

    Some posters like CavsFTW, fpliii, and a bunch of others have a legitimate argument, but an overwhelming majority have MJ as the GOAT.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    What's his playoffs stats looking like?
    Oh you know, horrible, he wasn't dominant at all in the playoffs, or so I'm told... except....

    Highest average, rebounds per game, one playoff series
    32.0 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia vs. Boston, 1967 (160/5)
    Most rebounds, game
    41 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia vs. Boston, April 5, 1967

    Most rebounds, rookie, game
    35 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia at Boston, March 22, 1960

    Most rebounds, one half
    26 - Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia vs. San Francisco, April 16, 1967

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Not really. When you eliminate the LeBron and Kobe stans, there are very few people who consider anyone other than MJ to be the GOAT.

    Some posters like CavsFTW, fpliii, and a bunch of others have a legitimate argument, but an overwhelming majority have MJ as the GOAT.
    6 time champion
    3 time NCAA champion
    3 time HS champion

    Kareem>>>Jordan.
    Domination at every level>>>domination at one level.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Jordan are the guys which I personally feel have the biggest most impressive resume's for GOAT status given their abilities and bodies of work but there are actually many to choose from. Shit, I don't care if some people put Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Bird etc on their pedastals, a lot will have to do with who people saw and who they were inspired by. I've seen guys choose Dr. J as the GOAT, heck Oscar Robertson thinks Elgin is. It's a subjective opinion at the end of the day. Jordan is a default response for many people. As such, I'm generally more interested and intrigued by the people who DON'T pick Jordan, because they generally seem to be more aware of the accomplishments and abilities of the other greats of NBA history.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Fist
    6 time champion
    3 time NCAA champion
    3 time HS champion

    Kareem>>>Jordan.
    Domination at every level>>>domination at one level.
    LeBron>>>

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
    LeBron>>>
    why don't you go kiss lebron's nose and make it all better?

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Fist
    6 time champion
    3 time NCAA champion
    3 time HS champion

    Kareem>>>Jordan.
    Domination at every level>>>domination at one level.
    Since when does HS and College accomplishments come into consideration when it comes to top 10 GOAT lists?

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Since when does HS and College accomplishments come into consideration when it comes to top 10 GOAT lists?
    Basketball GOAT lists can/should include just about any accolade from any level shouldn't they? Nobody specified NBA only. ABA, Eastern League, HS, NCAA, Globetrotters etc who's to say it isn't all fair game in assessing how great someone thinks their favorite player is?

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan is GOAT based on all comprehensive statistic measures

    Quote Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
    Basketball GOAT lists can/should include just about any accolade from any level shouldn't they? Nobody specified NBA only. ABA, Eastern League, HS, NCAA, Globetrotters etc who's to say it isn't all fair game in assessing how great someone thinks their favorite player is?
    How good were KAJ's teams in HS and College, compared to MJ's teams?

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