both magic and shaq

[abdubaba]

Have said kobe is the greatest laker ever... i dont understand anymore

[ImKobe]

Because all-time greats that live & breathe basketball have no knowledge on this subject, we should all listen to the 15-20 yr old trolls on ISH, their opinion matters more.

Jerry West also said Kobe's the greatest Laker.

[abdubaba]

Because all-time greats that live & breathe basketball have no knowledge on this subject, we should all listen to the 15-20 yr old trolls on ISH, their opinion matters more.

Jerry West also said Kobe's the greatest Laker.

I really dont get it anymore... kobe accomplished more without shaq on his side than shaq did without kobe on his side.

[Foster5k]

Well, you can take them at their word or look at the numbers.

Numbers don't lie. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wins if it's based on numbers.

Then it's a tie between Magic and Kobe based on things outside the numbers.

So....

1.KAJ
2a.Magic
2b.Kobe

Then the rest fall in line.

[Dragic4Life]

Greatest Lakers player in order:

1. Magic
2. West
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Kobe

Finally Kobe makes a top 5 list.

[kennethgriffin]

dont really see how kobe isnt the goat laker

he holds nearly all the records

he played longer than anyone

he shares the most titles won with magic johnson

he played twice as long as magic

he made the team more money than any other player

he carried the franchise pretty much as the only superstar for a decade ( 2005-2014 )

while other past stars shared the spotlight ( west/baylor to wilt/west to magic/kareem to shaq/kobe )

only other guy to carry the team on his own for a long time was kareem in the late 70's. but that was a bad time for the nba and LA

kareem spent half his time on milwaukee

wilt spent most of his time on warriors/sixers

mikan played in Minneapolis

shaq was a journey man

magic only had a 12 year career and shared a team with 4 other hall of famers ( wilkes, mcadoo, worthy, kareem )

then came back in 95 for a sideshow


kobes 17th year = 28/6/5 average, 1st team all nba


goat laker by far.

most accomplished
most popular world wide
most marketable
most records
most titles

[Overdrive]

I really dont get it anymore... kobe accomplished more without shaq on his side than shaq did without kobe on his side.

I love the logic behind this.

[abdubaba]

Well, you can take them at their word or look at the numbers.

Numbers don't lie. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wins if it's based on numbers.

Then it's a tie between Magic and Kobe based on things outside the numbers.

So....

1.KAJ
2a.Magic
2b.Kobe

Then the rest fall in line.

I agree with you but those KAJ teams included magic u know. U gotta account for that. Magic played with KAJ and he and the logo have kobe as the greatest laker ever.

[Hey Yo]

Magic also said rings are all that matters.

Havlicek > anyone not named Bill Russell

[Dragic4Life]

Magic also said rings are all that matters.

Havlicek > anyone not named Bill Russell

Horry > Kobe confirmed.

[abdubaba]

Greatest Lakers player in order:

1. Magic
2. West
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Kobe

Finally Kobe makes a top 5 list.

But magic shaq and west put kobe on top... are u a kid? Or are u still sour that kobe shat on the suns en route to a third final in a row??

[Hey Yo]

Greatest Lakers player in order:

1. Magic
2. West
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Kobe

Finally Kobe makes a top 5 list.

Magic's defense was horrible.

Drop him down to 5.

[kennethgriffin]

Magic also said rings are all that matters.

Havlicek > anyone not named Bill Russell

60's and 70's rings are cut in half though

hense bill russell routinely being ranked slightly behind MJ

because his 11 turn into 5.5

[kennethgriffin]

Horry > Kobe confirmed.

only a fan of someone lacking in rings would compare a role players total to a legend


you must like lebron james

[abdubaba]

dont really see how kobe isnt the goat laker

he holds nearly all the records

he played longer than anyone

he shares the most titles won with magic johnson

he played twice as long as magic

he made the team more money than any other player

he carried the franchise pretty much as the only superstar for a decade ( 2005-2014 )

while other past stars shared the spotlight ( west/baylor to wilt/west to magic/kareem to shaq/kobe )

only other guy to carry the team on his own for a long time was kareem in the late 70's. but that was a bad time for the nba and LA

kareem spent half his time on milwaukee

wilt spent most of his time on warriors/sixers

mikan played in Minneapolis

shaq was a journey man

magic only had a 12 year career and shared a team with 4 other hall of famers ( wilkes, mcadoo, worthy, kareem )

then came back in 95 for a sideshow


kobes 17th year = 28/6/5 average, 1st team all nba


goat laker by far.

most accomplished
most popular world wide
most marketable
most records
most titles

Thank you. Now i see why sir charles has him in his top 5 all time.