Who do you think did more for the franchise - Kobe or Dirk?

[Human Error]

I think Dirk hands down. He helped Dallas win their first ever championship as a clear cut first option and at later stage he took a paycut to make Dallas to be able to sign more quality players. Your thoughts?

[HOoopCityJones]

Lmao.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I'll take the guy with 5 rings who is sticking with his team during a historically bad season

[Real14]

Op have the nerve to say "proving idiots wrong" too oh yeaa.... Mods?

[imdaman99]

OP is a retarded troll. Makes a dumb thread a day.

[gts]

OP with another candidate for the stupid things said on ISH thread

[smoovegittar]

I think Dirk hands down. He helped Dallas win their first ever championship as a clear cut first option and at later stage he took a paycut to make Dallas to be able to sign more quality players. Your thoughts?

He might be your idol... and a great player - but comparing him to Kobe?

... have a drink.

[navy]

lol

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe fans aren't comprehending what's being asked here. The Lakers were still a top 3 franchise along with the Yankee, and Celtics in sports before Kobe, and will be after he's done. Dirk absolutely legitimized Dallas more than the Lakers EVER did or would need Kobe to do for them. Kobe is clearly better ball player, but Dirk did more for his franchise.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Kobe fans aren't comprehending what's being asked here. The Lakers were still a top 3 franchise along with the Yankee, and Celtics in sports before Kobe, and will be after he's done. Dirk absolutely legitimized Dallas more than the Lakers EVER did or would need Kobe to do for them. Kobe is clearly better ball player, but Dirk did more for his franchise.

Hmm I see your point. an interesting question would be if Kobe played on the Mavericks his whole career, would he have done more for the franchise than Dirk?

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe fans aren't comprehending what's being asked here. The Lakers were still a top 3 franchise along with the Yankee, and Celtics in sports before Kobe, and will be after he's done. Dirk absolutely legitimized Dallas more than the Lakers EVER did or would need Kobe to do for them. Kobe is clearly better ball player, but Dirk did more for his franchise.

Duncan did more for the Spurs than Jordan to the Bulls.

How does that sound to you?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Duncan did more for the Spurs than Jordan to the Bulls.

How does that sound to you?

But that would be stupidity. 6 rings from Mike v.s. 5 rings from Pop featuring D-Rob, Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and in 2014 K. Leonard?

From complete near irrelevancy to a decade long dynasty? How does that make any sense? The Bulls were nothing before the 1984 draft. No MVPs. A few playoff appearances here and there.

The Spurs before Duncan were on the map at the very least with entertaining players like George Gervin, or MVPs like David Robinson, etc.



Hoopscityjones, you're easily the biggest butt hurt Kobe defenseman of all-time.

if Kobe played on the Mavericks his whole career, would he have done more for the franchise than Dirk?

If Dirk did it ... why would a top ten player ever not have made a bigger impact? The answer is obvious.

[HOoopCityJones]

But that would be stupidity. 6 rings from Mike v.s. 5 rings from Pop featuring D-Rob, Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and in 2014 K. Leonard?

From complete near irrelevancy to a decade long dynasty? How does that make any sense? The Bulls were nothing before the 1984 draft. No MVPs. A few playoff appearances here and there.

The Spurs before Duncan were on the map at the very least with entertaining players like George Gervin, or MVPs like David Robinson, etc.

How many rings did they win with Iceman and Robinson?
The Bulls were no slouch before Jordan's era , Jerry Sloan was apart of one of the best backcourts in Bulls history , only eclipsed by Pippen and Jordan.

Either way you proved my point for me. When it comes to Jordan you always seem to have an excuse or exception.

There's no way you can say Dirk has meant more to his Team. Shit is purely laughable.

[SamuraiSWISH]

How many rings did they win with Iceman and Robinson?
The Bulls were no slouch before Jordan's era , Jerry Sloan was apart one of the best backcourts in Bulls history , only eclipsed by Pippen and Jordan.

Either way you proved my point for me. When it comes to Jordan you always seem to have an excuse or exception.

No, if you're strictly basing your retarded butt hurt argument on rings ...

Jordan gave Chicago 6x.
Duncan gave SA 4x ... 5x if you are delusional enough to think he was some superstar last season.

So how via any metric did Duncan do more for San Antonio than Mike did for Chicago? And like I said, beyond rings San Antonio had MVPs putting them on the map before Duncan.

The Bulls never had an MVP before Jordan's stretch of 5x of them.

There's no way you can say Dirk has meant more to his Team. Shit is purely laughable.

Dirk meant more to his FRANCHISE. He was their first ever MVP, and he delivered them their sole championship appearances, and ring.

The Lakers had 11x rings before Kobe came onto the scene. They had two different MVP players winning 6x total before Kobe was even on the team. 3x different MVPs before Kobe even won his in 2008.

Lakers had along with Boston the largest lineage of winning, and great players well before Kobe ever step foot on the floor in purple, and gold.

Dirk did more for the Mavericks than Kobe did for the Lakers. Doesn't mean he's the better player. He legitimized that franchise.

Jordan is the Bulls
Duncan legitimized the Spurs
Dirk is the Mavs
Kobe was a chain in a lineage of ELITE all-time great players
LeBron is the Cavs
Wade is the Heat

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lmao

5 titles, 7 finals. Billion dollar tv deal

Such a stupid thread.