Dishonest stat-keepers MANUFACTURED John Stockton's legacy!

[CuterThanRubio]

There have been many discussions in the past few days about the necessary criteria and credentials to be named one of the best point guards in league history, and these debates have produced some OUTRAGEOUS claims!

John Stockton and Mark Price have been name dropped on countless occasions, and their supporters swear that they would transform into the paleskinned Curry and Damian Lillard if they were playing today.

That reminded me of an old thread that dissected the assist differential between home and road games, and I recall Stockton getting a HEALTHY DOSE of home cooking, so I decided to investigate further and my suspicions have been confirmed!

First I'm going to list the assist differential for the top ten assist leaders, excluding 0scar 0berts0n because his numbers aren't available, and they are probably too scandalous to report in the first place, 60s basketball is an illusion.

1. Stockton +.8

2.Kidd +1.

3.NASH -.4

4. Mark Jackson +.7

5. Magic +.8

6. 0scar = Garbage

7. Isiah Thomas +.9

8. GP +.3

9. Andre Miller +1.

10. Rod Strickland +.4

BONUS: CP3 +.7

Now I know you may think that a few tenths of a percentage point are meaningless but consider that equates to 559 MORE home assists for Stockton in TWO LESS games.

That doesn't seem legitimate to me.

Take a look at Steve Nash's splits, he played 19 more home games and managed 75 less assists there, whats going on with that?

Now let's take a look into the KARL MALONE factor!

He averaged 25 points per game over the course of his career.

Stockton averaged a 50% assist ratio

So MALONE was responsible for AT LEAST 6 of his assists per game, and that is only on average, Malone was scoring in the late 20s and peaked at 31, can you imagine how many assists were gifted to Stockton during those years?

Malone has TWO most valuable player awards, if Stockton was responsible for the success of Utah's system wouldn't he be the guy winning awards?

Malone made Stockton, and dishonest stat-keepers INFLATED his numbers!

Take another look at Nash's differential, NEGATIVE at home, yet he is 3rd all time, there is NO DOUBT in my mind who the greatest passer and pre-Curry era pure point guard is, stats don't lie!

[riseagainst]

his assists are a little over valued, since he played with Malone.

but his steals are nothing to laugh at. That's just ridiculous.

[NBAGOAT]

Agree with some of your points. However you're using assist ratio wrong, it just says half the time a teammate scores, it was off a stockton assist. Even if you assume half of Malone's buckets were off Stockton assist swhich I'm pretty sure they weren't, it's more like 4-5. Malone got a lot of iso post ups while other guys on the Jazz had more assisted buckets so it's most likely less.

[DoctorP]

Stock was a machine of consistency.

[CuterThanRubio]

Agree with some of your points. However you're using assist ratio wrong, it just says half the time a teammate scores, it was off a stockton assist. Even if you assume half of Malone's buckets were off Stockton assist swhich I'm pretty sure they weren't, it's more like 4-5. Malone got a lot of iso post ups while other guys on the Jazz had more assisted buckets so it's most likely less.

No

Divide 25 by two

Then divide that number by two again/

6.25

Malone actually averaged more than 25 on the Jazz, his last season pulled his average down a little, so you can safely assume he was responsible for more than my estimations.

[NBAGOAT]

malone had usually 9-10 fg's a year usually. You divide that by 2 if you're assuming half his buckets come off stockton assists and it's still more like 4-5.

[IcanzIIravor]

What is with the disrespect to Stockton that I am seeing on the board?

[CuterThanRubio]

malone had usually 9-10 fg's a year usually. You divide that by 2 if you're assuming half his buckets come off stockton assists and it's still more like 4-5.

Did you forget the premise of the thread already?

DISHONEST stat-keepers inflated Stockton's totals regardless of what the actual numbers were.

The fact that Malone was putting up major points allowed them to tally up a few extra without seeming suspicious.

[NBAGOAT]

Did you forget the premise of the thread already?

DISHONEST stat-keepers inflated Stockton's totals regardless of what the actual numbers were.

The fact that Malone was putting up major points allowed them to tally up a few extra without seeming suspicious.

why are you assuming they only tally up extra assists on non malone plays.

[Young X]

Have you ever factored in that Stockton's teammates shot the ball better at home than on the road?

[CuterThanRubio]

why are you assuming they only tally up extra assists on non malone plays.

They tally them up at their own discretion!

http://deadspin.com/5345287/the-conf...ba-scorekeeper

^Read that before typing more uninformed nonsense!

[FKAri]

CP3 gets the most generous assists I have seen in the last 30 years.

Have you ever factored in that Stockton's teammates shot the ball better at home than on the road?

This

[CuterThanRubio]

Karl Malone averaged 25 points at home and on the road.

I considered this already.

[Dro]

What is with the disrespect to Stockton that I am seeing on the board?

Anything to prop up Curry, but Curry doesn't need it...

[Marchesk]

Imagine if Stockton had won 2 MVPs in the 90s during Jordan, Hakeem, Barkley and Malone's prime.