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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddy
    Theres no such thing as american. Tesla belongs to Eastern Europe.

    @OP keep Tesla out of your filthy ignorant trolling mouth
    I'm working on his biography and his inventions book. My goal is to read every book he has ever written. Most of my ideas are just far ahead of the idiot ISH poster. Guys like you who call me a troll are too stupid to grasp it. Only a few understand me. I have a disdain for Science because most of them are ripping off Philosophers. Tesla is the only true Scientist I respect. He is revolutionary and the only one

    With that said, another great invention of his was the "force field." Again, using atmospheric electric energy, he was able to find a practical way to create a forcefield to stop any object in its track. He never got direct funding from this so it was never fully realized, but the idea is there and in the government's hand.

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    In his biography, he said the only respect he had were for the philosophers such as Descartes. He said Descartes got it right with his science, but he was kept in the dark since he didn't have the technological advances (light, electricity, frequencies, vibration, etc.) to further his perspective. Like me, Tesla also highly criticized the scientists such as Einstein, Edison, Heinz, Marconi, etc. and flat out called them a bunch of idiots. He had such a disdain for their lack of intuitive philosophical thinking he would rather be referred to as an "inventor" although he was a scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddy
    Theres no such thing as american. Tesla belongs to Eastern Europe.

    @OP keep Tesla out of your filthy ignorant trolling mouth
    Tesla belongs to America. All his inventions are patented in America. America has been blessed with his gift. If Serbia truly owns him, they would be the super power today and America would be some weak country like Canada since Tesla's ideas could create weaponry that makes Einstein's atom bomb look like a b b gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    Invented wireless technology
    No he didn't. Other folks were not only doing experiments but had working wireless systems before Tesla.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    This is hands down the most influential technology of this century. Computers, cell phones, radio, etc. has shaped the world we live in.
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    For one thing computers does not equal wireless. For two, radio was not invented in the past 100 years, however computers were, so I would the integrated circuit is the most influential technology of our century.

    More importantly, why are you giving Tesla credit for radio?
    Karl Ferdinand Braun and Guglielmo Marconi were given the Nobel in 1909 and we ended up using Marconi's system as the basis of "radio." Tesla didn't even think you would be able to use "radio" as a means. to communicate. He did invent a radio controlled boat though.

    http://earlyradiohistory.us/tesla.htm
    Nikola Tesla: The Guy Who DIDN'T "Invent Radio"
    Thomas H. White -- November 1, 2012

    Question: Shouldn't Nikola Tesla be considered the "inventor of radio", given that in 1943 the United States Supreme Court (supposedly) overturned all of Guglielmo Marconi's patents and proclaimed Tesla "the true inventor"?

    Gut Reaction: Are you joking??? In no way, shape or form can this guy be considered the "inventor of radio". Furthermore, contrary to what you might have read, the U.S. Supreme Court never said that he was -- not in 1943, not in any other year. If fact, if anything Tesla's "contribution" was to confuse and slow radio development, due to his misunderstanding of the physics involved. Fortunately, at the time few people were listening to his misguided and exaggerated "true wireless" ramblings.

    A More Dignified Response: A fuller answer is that although Tesla did do groundbreaking research in early electrical systems, most importantly wired power transmission using alternating current, his contributions to radio technology were minimal, overshadowed by the far more important practical work conducted by other inventors and scientists, including Heinrich Hertz, Oliver Lodge, Guglielmo Marconi, Karl Braun -- the later two shared the Nobel prize for physics in 1909 -- Reginald Fessenden and John Stone Stone.

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    GREATEST SERB IN HISTORY!
    He is half croatian/serbian, born in what is today modern day croatia as at that specific time we were pwned by Austrian Empire afterall while everything else was pwned by Ottoman Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC
    No he didn't. Other folks were not only doing experiments but had working wireless systems before Tesla.


    For one thing computers does not equal wireless. For two, radio was not invented in the past 100 years, however computers were, so I would the integrated circuit is the most influential technology of our century.

    More importantly, why are you giving Tesla credit for radio?
    Karl Ferdinand Braun and Guglielmo Marconi were given the Nobel in 1909 and we ended up using Marconi's system as the basis of "radio." Tesla didn't even think you would be able to use "radio" as a means. to communicate. He did invent a radio controlled boat though.

    http://earlyradiohistory.us/tesla.htm
    Of course, lover boy of Science and media sheep Kev would refute this.

    1. Wireless technology is the ability to transmit data from one point to another. The link you cited aren't exactly the same kind of technology I am talking about. Tesla conceptualized the idea (the transfer of data without wire) way before the internet was born. Many of his ideas were attributed to others due to his conflict with Edison. It is not by coincidence Fassenden (who worked for Edison) is being credited for this technology. Other's have been creditted for his works as well. Read his books. It's quite an eye opener. He truly is a pioneer of all these great technologies.

    I doubt you know much about Tesla (many don't), but if you read his books, he explain in full detail how he came about wireless technology, and is the pioneer of what we are using today. You can't compare a phonograph or morse code to the same sh*t we use today. You just can't.

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    Of course, lover boy of Science and media sheep Kev would refute this.


    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    1. Wireless technology is the ability to transmit data from one point to another. The link you cited aren't exactly the same kind of technology I am talking about. Tesla conceptualized the idea (the transfer of data without wire) way before the internet was born. Many of his ideas were attributed to others due to his conflict with Edison. It is not by coincidence Fassenden (who worked for Edison) is being credited for this technology. Other's have been creditted for his works as well. Read his books. It's quite an eye opener. He truly is a pioneer of all these great technologies.

    I doubt you know much about Tesla (many don't), but if you read his books, he explain in full detail how he came about wireless technology, and is the pioneer of what we are using today. You can't compare a phonograph or morse code to the same sh*t we use today. You just can't.
    Yeah, Tesla conceptualized the idea of something that other people including Alexander Graham Bell had already built working versions of. Tesla (who worked for Edison before Fessenden, note that first "e") didn't believe in radio waves and thought Hertz was all wrong. Marconi gets the credit because he was doing long distance radio transmissions by 1895 and communicated across the English channel by 1899. Fessenden gets the credit because he did audio transmissions by 1900. Others were involved too. They get the credit because they got the stuff to work and solved some of the major technical hurdles. Things that Tesla never did.

    Tesla did plenty of great things, but he also got some things wrong. You have moved from "invented" to "conceptualized." This is a nice way of saying he had a habit of bullshitting about what he could and then coming up short in the practical terms.

    But yeah, planes that fly by atmospheric electricity and weather changing super death ray weapons would be cool. But you also think that Edison's lightbulb is the only one of his inventions we still use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC



    Yeah, Tesla conceptualized the idea of something that other people including Alexander Graham Bell had already built working versions of. Tesla (who worked for Edison before Fessenden, note that first "e") didn't believe in radio waves and thought Hertz was all wrong. Marconi gets the credit because he was doing long distance radio transmissions by 1895 and communicated across the English channel by 1899. Fessenden gets the credit because he did audio transmissions by 1900. Others were involved too. They get the credit because they got the stuff to work and solved some of the major technical hurdles. Things that Tesla never did.

    Tesla did plenty of great things, but he also got some things wrong. You have moved from "invented" to "conceptualized." This is a nice way of saying he had a habit of bullshitting about what he could and then coming up short in the practical terms.

    But yeah, planes that fly by atmospheric electricity and weather changing super death ray weapons would be cool. But you also think that Edison's lightbulb is the only one of his inventions we still use.
    1. Tesla actually advocated the use of radio waves to detect German U-boats, which is known as radar today. Although Emile Girardeu is the inventor of the first radar instrument, he followed the exact principles Tesla laid out.

    2. A conceptualization is an idea, a patent, a blue print, etc. His works in robotics and the electric motor is only beginning to find it's fruition today due to the complexity of the designs, so he's not exactly bullsh*tting out of his a*s: he's got hundreds of legit patents that are responsible for a lot of the technological advances we are seeing today.

    3. What did Tesla get wrong?

    4. Marconi, the father of radio, actually infringed on Tesla's patent. Tesla was the first to send a letter "s" 2,000 miles through morse code. The courts agreed and Tesla eventually won the suit years after his death.

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    Things that Tesla never did.

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    If I patented an idea and others looked at my work and used the same principles I laid out, it is still my idea. Marconi got credit for his work; Rontgen got credit for his work; Girardeu got credit for his work; and so many others .. hell the government is the "father" of the internet .. how the f*ck did that happen? When has the government ever invented anything worth a sh*t? Ya they ransacked his apartment and stole his life's work ... just like everybody else .. Tesla has never gotten credit for the stuff he patented and invented. Thank god he wrote a lot of books ... otherwise the history in education would of buried him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maksimilian
    Heres a youtube documentary on the man

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98QwPO1b5j4
    I haven't seen that documentary yet, but most of the documentaries on youtube about him are complete lies. It's almost a deliberate distortion of the truth. For example, some of them made him out as superstitious, seeing ghosts and sh*t, but he was very anti-superstition, and they brushed off so many of his philosophies, science, and other experiments it's agonizing to watch. These videos represent less than 5% of what he truly accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamRAMBO24
    4. Marconi, the father of radio, actually infringed on Tesla's patent. Tesla was the first to send a letter "s" 2,000 miles through morse code. The courts agreed and Tesla eventually won the suit years after his death.
    This implies that the invention of radio communication involves a single patent or single inventor or that Tesla ever patented something that was like Marconi's 1904 system. Radio had a lot of contributors and a lot of patents and Tesla wanted to pursue a system that relied on conduction and not radio waves.

    For almost 40 years, Marconi's patent had stood, when it was overturned during WWII, a factor might have been because his company was suing the US Government for patent infringement during WWI. The government would not have had to pay if Marconi didn't have the patent. Another thing to remember was this was not Marconi's first patent for a "wireless telegraphy system" which was granted in 1897, it was for his 1904 American patent, which was concerned various improvements to wireless telegraphy.

    The court found that Marconi didn't deserve the patent, but it was not simply because of Tesla, it was because his patent was anticipated by Tesla, John Stone Stone and Oliver Lodge, particularly Stone. Stone was important because he developed adjustable tuning. The majority of the court found
    Marconi's patent involved no invention over Lodge, Tesla, and Stone.
    The judges who dissented rejected this as it was clear that Marconi's system performed much better and solved problems that neither, Lodge, Tesla or Stone's could do it. This was recognized by patent courts at the time. The dissenting judges conclude that majority since we know the solution, in hindsight, Maconi didn't make a great leap. This is ahistorical. The truth was this issues were not obvious and Tesla, Lodge and Stone couldn't solve the problem of long distance radio communication like Marconi did.

    Courts closer to it chronologically than we are have characterized it as a "conspicuous advance in wireless telegraphy;" "a real accomplishment," and the ideas involved in the patent were said to "have proven of great value to the world," to have brought about "an entirely new and useful result," "a new and very important industrial result," and "a wonderful conquest." "The Marconi patent stands out as an unassailable monument until new discoveries are made."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maksimilian
    The thing is, when he was at his peak (prior to World War 1), he was one of the most recognisable faces in New York City and America. Twenty years later, no one knew his name. Its when he started going against JP Morgan and Tomas Edison that his name started going through the mud.
    He went against JP Morgan and Thomas Edison waaaaaay before WWI. He was a competitor to Edison in 1880's Morgan backed Tesla financially from 1900 to 1901. He stopped because Tesla ran out of money without developing anything useful and because Marconi achieved transatlantic radio broadcast. Morgan realized he had backed the wrong horse and he had lost.

    Also if Tesla's peak was before WW1 and 20 years later no one knew his name how do you explain this in 1931?

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    Tesla was the man. He discovered the ancient free energy which was used by some advanced civilizations from the past. A tesla generator is basically unlimited energy. Because of the destruction in profit it would cause to the big energy companies they destroyed Tesla's career and the US government destroyed his work after he died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddy
    Theres no such thing as american. Tesla belongs to Eastern Europe.

    @OP keep Tesla out of your filthy ignorant trolling mouth
    tesla chose to leave you shit hole region because he didnt want to be a poor tenant farmer.

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