The Miami Heat are showing why those hypothetical situations of replacing a player...

[lilteapot]

I guess stacking the deck with 3 all-stars in a historically weak conference had nothing to do with that.

Your argument is DESPERATE.

Lebron made his teammates "just good enough".

So if Bosh is "Hakeem" why couldn't he get past the first round without 2 other all stars? And if Lebron made him and Wade worse then the teams wouldn't be as stacked, would it?

[livinglegend]

Lol at dumbasses acting like miami is going to win the championship. 2nd round team at best.

[JT123]

He joined Lebron in his prime, dumbass. He's still in his prime, his health is there and he's beasting. 29 PER. .303 WS/48

with Lebron he's a Horace Grant or a Robert Horry. Without Lebron he's Hakeem.

3 good games and Bosh is now Hakeem?
Never change Kobe stans, never change.

[ImKobe]

LMAO he was always good. Just because production lessens doesn't mean he got worse. Bosh had a role to play in Miami and it didn't necessarily show up on the stat sheet.

Plz watch more basketball

That's the point...Lebron makes his all-star teammates role players...diminishes their impact to make his stats look good. Bosh and Wade can do a lot more than Lebron's asked from them, as it was evident throughout their Miami run. Wade and Bosh beasted when allowed to.

[Fudge]

Let's look a Bosh's performance before lebron:

no playoff series wins

After:
2 titles

[livinglegend]

Statistically, he did, as it is evidenced this season...

Kobe was able to average 30 ppg alongside Shaq, no problem. Scottie got 21/8/8 alongside MJ, no problem there, 2nd 3-peat Scottie was the one dominating the ball while MJ got his in the post. He found a way to make it work. Even when MJ retired in 93, Scottie put up virtually similar numbers without him, you might have expected him to become a 25+ppg scorer with MJ not getting his 30, but his scoring only went up slightly... You see Bosh go from a 16/7 player to a 25/10 player without Lebron...hmm.

Bran however seems to cause his teammates to have worse production with him there....

Gasol was okay in Memphis, came to LA and beasted alongside Kobe, 2012 both Gasol and Bynum were able to beast while Kobe got his...

Lebron just hasn't proved to be as good in that department. We're talking all-star teammates, by the way.

Stopped at statiscally. Basketball is more than stats.

[JT123]

thank you historical rigging and ray allen

definitely proves that bran didn't make bosh worse

No one takes a Thunder fan talking about rigging seriously. The league has been trying to rig Durant a ring for 2 years now, and he STILL can't get the job done!

[lilteapot]

That's the point...Lebron makes his all-star teammates role players...diminishes their impact to make his stats look good. Bosh and Wade can do a lot more than Lebron's asked from them, as it was evident throughout their Miami run. Wade and Bosh beasted when allowed to.

What about when Lebron was on the bench so many times last year and Bosh and Wade did nothing to bring them back from a deficit? How did James make them two worse in that instance?

Lebron had early foul trouble against Indy in last year's playoffs. What did Wade and Bosh do to get the win?

Lebron cramps up in the NBA finals and Wade and Bosh can't hold down the fort in clutch time. What stopped them from stepping up?

[Magic 32]

So if Bosh is "Hakeem" why couldn't he get past the first round without 2 other all stars?

Because he played on a garbage team. Just like Love and Wade.

And I never said he was Hakeem. He was just a lot better than what Lebron made him into.

And if Lebron made him and Wade worse then the teams wouldn't be as stacked, would it?

The team was stacked enough to absorb Lebron's diminishing effect on his teammates.

[ImKobe]

3 good games and Bosh is now Hakeem?
Never change Kobe stans, never change.

Lebron robbed Bosh of his prime....27-30 years old is usually a player's true prime in terms of having great knowledge of the game and still being very athletic....

Bosh was avging 24/11 on 52% shooting prior to joining Miami, 17/7 in Miami on 51% and 26/11/4 on 48/55/86 shooting post-Lebron so far...55% from 3 bro

[livinglegend]

No one takes a Thunder fan talking about rigging seriously. The league has been trying to rig Durant a ring for 2 years now, and he STILL can't get the job done!

It s mor like: no one takes a thunder fan seriously period. I havent seen one good intelligent thunder fan.

[Magic 32]

What about when Lebron was on the bench so many times last year and Bosh and Wade did nothing to bring them back from a deficit? How did James make them two worse in that instance?

How did Lebron do when Wade was the first option in the 2011 finals?

What did he do when Wade was on the bench?

Not much. It's called rhythm.

[lilteapot]

Lebron robbed Bosh of his prime....27-30 years old is usually a player's true prime in terms of having great knowledge of the game and still being very athletic....

Bosh was avging 24/11 on 52% shooting prior to joining Miami, 17/7 in Miami on 51% and 26/11/4 on 48/55/86 shooting post-Lebron so far...55% from 3 bro

You just told me Bosh was still in his prime you dope

[lilteapot]

How did Lebron do when Wade was the first option in the 2011 finals?

What did he do when Wade was on the bench?

Not much. It's called rhythm.

Great points, so now you just proved Wade somehow made Lebron a worse teammate

Please, let's just put this forced criticism aside.

[livinglegend]

So since superstars bosh and wade are back, miami should be the favorites. We ll see how far they go.