2008 Celtics Vs 2012 Heat (both fully healthy)

[livinglegend]

Celtics would win, it would be a great series though, I think our post presence is where we would win the series, truth and lbj would go at it, I just think our defence would hold fort against the Heat offense

What post presence? Perkins?

[Kvnzhangyay]

The 2011 Heat are the most dangerous version of them imo. You had a more flawed LeBron sure, but still had peak Wade with Bosh having big playoff series

Role players were much worse in '11

[Black and White]

What post presence? Perkins?

KG and don't think that Perk was the player that we see today, his value went further than stats

[livinglegend]

The 2011 Heat are the most dangerous version of them imo. You had a more flawed LeBron sure, but still had peak Wade with Bosh having big playoff series

They started Bibby/Arroyo and Joel/Igauskaus .


no

[livinglegend]

KG and don't think that Perk was the player that we see today, his value went further than stats

2012 Lebron was a better post player than KG.
Heat had more post presence with Wade and Lebron.

[unknowns8]

Just because a veteran, older team coasted on away games doesnt mean they wouldn't beat the Heat. Sure, they should have swept the Hawks and beaten the Cavs in 5-6 but they didnt, they dominated the regular season and looked more dominant in the ECFs and the Finlas but coasted, especially in the early rounds of the playoffs, they didn't show up in away games like they did at home because they knew they had the HCA. The '08 team had elite rebounding, 3pt shooting and major post presence in KG. None of that was the case in 2011 or 2012. Not to mention the bench, Cassell, House, Tony Allen, Posey, PJ Brown and Leon Powe... that's a nasty bench. One of the greatest defensive teams in the history of the league.

EDIT: just to say the 2008 Celtics would win the series 4-1 easily

[Rose'sACL]

KG and don't think that Perk was the player that we see today, his value went further than stats

i don't count kg as real post presence. He settled for way too many mid range jumpers which is why i rate 2012 heat as the better team than 2008 celtics. Your big man should be able to bang in the post like duncan could and still can for short stretches. KG can't back his man down much. Duncan gave heat so much problem because he would just overpower heat's big men.

The little problem heat had on offense was when bosh was not playing otherwise they were a beast on offense while playing on a slow pace.
Celtics always used to struggle for short stretches on offense.

[unknowns8]

2012 Lebron was a better post player than KG.
Heat had more post presence with Wade and Lebron.

[Droid101]

2012 Lebron was a better post player than KG.
Heat had more post presence with Wade and Lebron.

Holy shit the delusion.

[SouBeachTalents]

Role players were much worse in '11

They started Bibby/Arroyo and Joel/Igauskaus .


no

I realize the role players and other starters were worse, but neither of the championship teams came close to dominating the playoffs as the 2011 Heat did. Rolled through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs on a 12-3 run, against their most legit East playoff competition to boot, and if LeBron plays up to snuff in the Finals they beat the Mavs in 4-5 games. The 2012 & 2013 Heat were much more vulnerable during their playoff runs

[Sharmer]

Some important facts for consideration, the Celtic's were a first-year team that won 66 games. They were also a team that played better progressively during the Playoffs. They comprehensively beat the Lakers in 08, and came very close in 10, when losing in the 4th after being up 13 points. I think they are far superior to any of the Heat teams.

[Rose'sACL]

that is true. he is talking about "back your man down" type of physical post play, not KG's post play which was based on jump shots.

Hibbert and Duncan gave heat the most problem because they have the physical tools to do it even though hibbert is shit. I think 2012 heat match up very well with 2008 celtics.

[ArbitraryWater]

The 2011 Heat are the most dangerous version of them imo. You had a more flawed LeBron sure, but still had peak Wade with Bosh having big playoff series

yea, 2011 Heat would shred alot of champions & teams of the past.. their best version.

[livinglegend]

I realize the role players and other starters were worse, but neither of the championship teams came close to dominating the playoffs as the 2011 Heat did. Rolled through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs on a 12-3 run, against their most legit East playoff competition to boot, and if LeBron plays up to snuff in the Finals they beat the Mavs in 4-5 games. The 2012 & 2013 Heat were much more vulnerable during their playoff runs

That's because 2012 Heat wasn't healthy.
They dominated OKC when healthy.

[Rose'sACL]

I realize the role players and other starters were worse, but neither of the championship teams came close to dominating the playoffs as the 2011 Heat did. Rolled through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs on a 12-3 run, against their most legit East playoff competition to boot, and if LeBron plays up to snuff in the Finals they beat the Mavs in 4-5 games. The 2012 & 2013 Heat were much more vulnerable during their playoff runs

that is because bosh was hurt during pacers and celtics series. bosh was the guy who got lane open leading to better more efficient offense.
2012 heat would defeat 2011 heat in 6 games.