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NBA Legend
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Comparing Nash to Cousy is a huge joke, did you see that gif from Cousy, my 93 year old vietnam veteran neighbor can dribble better than that and he's missing a leg.
Nash has the ball on a string and it is an insult to compare him to Cousy.
How about the 6-5 Maravich against the 6-2 Nash?
Pistol Pete was playing college ball in the 60's...
Maravich would have made a mockery out of Nash in a game of one-on-one.
Not even close.
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
at worst top 25? try 30-35.. i have wade around the 29 or 30 range, but top 25 is a HUGE stretch.
there are TOO many superstars with better careers and better basketball skills to be put aside for wade, who while great, is an injury riddled, lack-of-adjustment player.
Huge stretch? Not really, Wade has arguably a top 15 peak ever and has strong resume to go with it. There are definitely not 30 players who were as good as Wade in his prime even if it was short.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Cousy was easily the best guard of his era. Wade ... not.
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Cousy was easily the best guard of his era. Wade ... not.
I don't see how that's relevant or even fair. Competiton at the position must be considered, Dwight was the best center in his era mostly, so by your logic we'd have to take him over Drob and Ewing since Hakeem was the best center then.
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
How this even a comparison Dwyane Wade played in a real era of basketball. Wade is about 10x more athletic and overall better. Didn't Cousy shoot 35% and not to mention Doris Burke has better handles than him
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by greatest-ever
I don't see how that's relevant or even fair. Competiton at the position must be considered, Dwight was the best center in his era mostly, so by your logic we'd have to take him over Drob and Ewing since Hakeem was the best center then.
Difference is there were other HoF guards in Cousy's era, non in Dwights era unless Ben Wallace or Yao Ming make it.
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
lol comparing cousy to nash, total ignorance.
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NBA Legend
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by swagga
lol comparing cousy to nash, total ignorance.
Like comparing Hakeem to Hibbert.
Who would take Hakeem over Hibbert?
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by greatest-ever
I don't see how that's relevant or even fair. Competiton at the position must be considered, Dwight was the best center in his era mostly, so by your logic we'd have to take him over Drob and Ewing since Hakeem was the best center then.
Yes...and?
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by greatest-ever
Huge stretch? Not really, Wade has arguably a top 15 peak ever and has strong resume to go with it. There are definitely not 30 players who were as good as Wade in his prime even if it was short.
Wade is a top 20 player, who has top 10 talent. Consider what the NBA landscape looks like if Wade picks up his first FMVP in 05. Because he was on his way to the Finals until the ab tear in Game 5.
Regardless the world would have "met" Dwyane Wade in 2005. And that Heat/ Spurs series would have been a war. Wade was dominating the Larry Brown/ Big Ben-era defense of the Pistons, so I don't think the Spurs defense would have scared him.
If he did get the hardware in 05, and then still wins the 06 title, all of the sudden we're living in the "Dwyane Wade era." And in 07, when he was already much better than 06, what if he and Shaq don't both get hurt? He was putting up 29/5/8 until the shoulder tear, about where he was in 09. They would have blitzed the East and then had another war with the Spurs in the Finals. If they win again, now he have a Wade-led three-peat and it would have only been his fourth year in the league.
If, if, if, if, if. That's the word that defines what Wade could have been. However, "if" doesn't make a legacy. But, when Wade has been on court, his play obliterates that of some players that many people try to put above him. He's at 24/5/6/2/1/49% for his career for god's sake, and that's despite the years in which his stats were deflated by injuries and LeBron.
The career totals to watch are 20,000 pts and 5,000 assists. Once he hits those benchmarks, with career averages not dropping significantly, it will be impossible for any objective observer to put him outside the top 25. Depending on how many games he plays, he could hit both of those marks next season.
Last edited by jrong; 02-14-2015 at 03:03 PM.
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Difference is there were other HoF guards in Cousy's era, non in Dwights era unless Ben Wallace or Yao Ming make it.
Right and i guess there was no Kobe, Cp3, Nash, Ray allen etc playing at the same time as Wade
Your comment is disingenuous.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by greatest-ever
Right and i guess there was no Kobe, Cp3, Nash, Ray allen etc playing at the same time as Wade
Your comment is disingenuous.
Only difference is Cousy was the best guard for a ten year stretch and Wade never was.
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Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
CEOs and politicians be bookmarking this thread as to why their performace. (Stock price, policies) just cant be compared to what it was like before.
Lots of fortune 500 companies fail, but you somehow picked a player who had accolades before, where the name isnt going away.
Happy valenstine day.
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ruckus for president
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Only difference is Cousy was the best guard for a ten year stretch and Wade never was.
best guard in whites only milkmen league don't mean too much tbh.
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ruckus for president
Re: Bob Cousy vs Dwyane Wade
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Like comparing Hakeem to Hibbert.
Who would take Hakeem over Hibbert?
lol besides defensive impact that comparison shouldn't even be made.
cousy can't hold nash's jock, he is light years behing in ball handling, shooting, passing, vision, ability to take a man off the dribble, tempo control, etc... keep the L.
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