Have the Knicks improved enough to pass the Bulls and face Heat in ECF?

[Lebron23]

that's what i thought last year until i started watching more bulls games

Did you watched the Eastern Conference Finals? It's easier to defend Rose in the playoffs because the guy is an inconsistent jump shooter, and Heat were able to shut him down in the 4th quarter.

[Joey Zaza]

Its a cop-out but I think this season is gonna be nuts and we will not know anything until the last game is played.

My frame of reference is the '99 season. NYK got off to a rough start -integrated a bunch of new pieces - and fought to the 8th seed. Msg boards at the time were probably flooded with "Heat >>>>>KNicks" threads. As we all know, those Knicks made the finals. If there had been 32 more games, the Knicks would've evened out and found their way to a 3/4 seed, and there would've been more "NYK are DANGEROUS" threads.

So, for now, without a game to judge or a win to ananlyze from any team, I'll go with Heat>Bulls>Knicks>Indy based on last season and let this season play itself out.

[Lebron23]

LMAO at the Knicks beating the Bulls and Heat in the playoffs. These team needs to play some defense. When was the last time that a very poor defensive team won the NBA championship?

2010-2011 New York Knicks

Opp PTS/G: 105.7 (28th of 30)

Def Rtg: 110.1 (22nd of 30)

[Joey Zaza]

LMAO at the Knicks beating the Bulls and Heat in the playoffs. These team needs to play some defense. When was the last time that a very poor defensive team won the NBA championship?

2010-2011 New York Knicks

Opp PTS/G: 105.7 (28th of 30)

Def Rtg: 110.1 (22nd of 30)

You do know that the NYL have made specific moves to try to imporve their D.

Also, Opp PPG is a bit misleading (not to imply that the NYK played great D). You can limit opp ppg pretty substanitally by dribbling the air out of the ball and limiting possessions (what MVp PG dribbles the air out of the ball....hmmm). Fewer possessions, fewer points, more people OMG BEST DEFENSE EVER!!!

[knickscity]

LMAO at the Knicks beating the Bulls and Heat in the playoffs. These team needs to play some defense. When was the last time that a very poor defensive team won the NBA championship?

2010-2011 New York Knicks

Opp PTS/G: 105.7 (28th of 30)

Def Rtg: 110.1 (22nd of 30)

Come on guy, let the games get played first.

If we are just basing things on last season let all of it come out.

LeBron will bow out when the game matters the most. He can't win on the biggest stage.

He defers to much.

No post game.

Shaky jumper.

Not clutch.

But enough with that, to me though, let the games get played.

Do I personally believe the Knicks can beat the Heat or Bulls?

I don't know because they haven't been in position to have that chance.

[fubu05]

LMAO at the Knicks beating the Bulls and Heat in the playoffs. These team needs to play some defense. When was the last time that a very poor defensive team won the NBA championship?

2010-2011 New York Knicks

Opp PTS/G: 105.7 (28th of 30)

Def Rtg: 110.1 (22nd of 30)

Does this retard not understand they brought in Mike Woodson and Tyson Chandler to try and get better defensively? Why are you using last years stats when we're talking about how they've improved with the additions they've made you ****ing goof. We know they're going to get better defensively, but by how much... thats something we won't know until a couple months into the season.

[Lebron23]

Does this retard not understand they brought in Mike Woodson and Tyson Chandler to try and get better defensively? Why are you using last years stats when we're talking about how they've improved with the additions they've made you ****ing goof. We know they're going to get better defensively, but by how much... thats something we won't know until a couple months into the season.

Shut up @$$wipe!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/kni...efensive-coach


D'Antoni: Woodson isn't a defensive coach

Mike D'Antoni hated the word defense. You guys needs to have a coach that's committed on playing tough defense. D'Antoni is still calling the shots in NY.

[DMV2]

Shut up @$$wipe!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/kni...efensive-coach


D'Antoni: Woodson isn't a defensive coach

Mike D'Antoni hated the word defense. You guys needs to have a coach that's committed on playing tough defense. D'Antoni is still calling the shots in NY.

Did you even read the article? D'Antoni is basically saying there's no such thing as defensive coach in basketball, and he's right. They're assistant coaches. There's no special labeling like defensive coordinator like there is i football.

Thibideou was an assistant in Boston but everybody knew he was defensive minded and ran the Celtics defensive scheme.

[fubu05]

Shut up @$$wipe!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/kni...efensive-coach


D'Antoni: Woodson isn't a defensive coach

Mike D'Antoni hated the word defense. You guys needs to have a coach that's committed on playing tough defense. D'Antoni is still calling the shots in NY.

Hey dumbass that same article goes on to later explain that while D'Antoni doesn't want Woodson to be referred to as a "defensive coach", Woodson is the one who seems to be preaching defense to the Knicks while D'Antoni sometimes sits on the sidelines and just lets Woodson take over. ****ing goof. Gtfo.

[QUOTE]That may be true. But so far, Woodson has played the part of defensive coordinator for the Knicks.

On the court and in the film room during training camp, Woodson talks to players about defense; D'Antoni sticks to offense.

"I can't step on his toes too much," D

[Lebron23]

Hey dumbass that same article goes on to later explain that while D'Antoni doesn't want Woodson to be referred to as a "defensive coach", Woodson is the one who seems to be preaching defense to the Knicks while D'Antoni sometimes sits on the sidelines and just lets Woodson take over. ****ing goof. Gtfo.

Let see about that. You stupid son of a B1tch. Mike Woodson's Hawks were decent defensively, But the Heat with a much better offensive game this year would still kick that @$$ in the playoffs.

PS:

Your such a homo loving ***** ass bitch. Pacers are better than the Knicks.

[kurple]

Rose is obviously better then Davis.

However a healthy B.Diddy is a better Leader/Passer/PlayMaker then Rose is right now.

Davis was dropping 7-8 dimes per game for what like 10-12+ seasons?

Then why did the clippers give up their pick that ended up being the number one overall just to dump his ass?

[fubu05]

Let see about that. You stupid son of a B1tch. Mike Woodson's Hawks were decent defensively, But the Heat with a much better offensive game this year would still kick that @$$ in the playoffs.

PS:

Your such a homo loving ***** ass bitch. Pacers are better than the Knicks.

You're actually retarded. You just went from trying to use last years stats as if they will be the exact same this year to prove your point that the Knicks can't play D.

LMAO at the Knicks beating the Bulls and Heat in the playoffs. These team needs to play some defense. When was the last time that a very poor defensive team won the NBA championship?

2010-2011 New York Knicks

Opp PTS/G: 105.7 (28th of 30)

Def Rtg: 110.1 (22nd of 30)

Then I went on to tell you that you are once again retarded and the Knicks did bring in Mike Woodson and Tyson Chandler to improve their defense. You then went on to quote some article claiming it says "Woodson isn't a defensive coach"

Shut up @$$wipe!!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/kni...efensive-coach


D'Antoni: Woodson isn't a defensive coach

Mike D'Antoni hated the word defense. You guys needs to have a coach that's committed on playing tough defense. D'Antoni is still calling the shots in NY.

Now if you actually read that article, you realize all D'Antoni said is he doesn't like labelling coaches as "defensive coaches" or "offensive coaches"

The article also says that often times during practice, D'antoni takes a backseat to Mike Woodson and Woodson preaches defense to the team. Once gain, you are retarded.

And now you say that yeah actually Woodson is a decent defensive coach, but still the heats zomg super awezomesors offense will destroyzors the Knicks.

Please take in what you just did and re-evaluate yourself and see if you are legally retarded and if you can receive compensation from your government.

[Nickel06]

Let see about that. You stupid son of a B1tch. Mike Woodson's Hawks were decent defensively, But the Heat with a much better offensive game this year would still kick that @$$ in the playoffs.

PS:

Your such a homo loving ***** ass bitch. Pacers are better than the Knicks.

Hmmm why am I not surprised by this stuff!!! Typical frontrunner Miami fan, Get backed into a corner, and start name callin and spittin n sputterin... yea reeeeal classy dude!!! Way to be!!

[Lebron23]

You're actually retarded. You just went from trying to use last years stats as if they will be the exact same this year to prove your point that the Knicks can't play D.




Then I went on to tell you that you are once again retarded and the Knicks did bring in Mike Woodson and Tyson Chandler to improve their defense. You then went on to quote some article claiming it says "Woodson isn't a defensive coach"



Now if you actually read that article, you realize all D'Antoni said is he doesn't like labelling coaches as "defensive coaches" or "offensive coaches"

The article also says that often times during practice, D'antoni takes a backseat to Mike Woodson and Woodson preaches defense to the team. Once gain, you are retarded.

And now you say that yeah actually Woodson is a decent defensive coach, but still the heats zomg super awezomesors offense will destroyzors the Knicks.

Please take in what you just did and re-evaluate yourself and see if you are legally retarded and if you can receive compensation from your government.

You don't have any basketball IQ. Go outside and eat your dog's poop. When was the last time a D'Antoni team was committed on playing defense? The D'Antoni Suns had Prime Marion on their team, but the Suns didn't improved their defense.

Just the $hut the F*ck up. You fat piece of $hit.

[Lebron23]

Hmmm why am I not surprised by this stuff!!! Typical frontrunner Miami fan, Get backed into a corner, and start name callin and spittin n sputterin... yea reeeeal classy dude!!! Way to be!!

The Little bastard started the name calling. . The guy is probably the worst poster in this forum, and a LeBron/Heat hater since he registered in this forum.

PS:

Pacers are gonna F*ck the Knicks in the playoffs