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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilocon165
    In 2016 Curry put up one of the worst finals performances of all time

    This is what he looked like trying to guard Kyrie



    Therefore we can conclude that Curry is a choking loser
    Curry is one of the top 5 point guard defenders in the league

    Curry had a tough time defending Kyrie because of his MCL injury

    MCL Injuries mainly effect lateral movement and explosiveness, both crucial for perimeter defense

    [Quote]The MCL is one of four ligaments connecting the femur bone to the tibia at the knee. It helps keep the knee stable as it moves from the outside to the inside.

    So the lateral movements are going to put pressure on the ligament.

    Athletic trainers refer to what

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
    Jordan's production was not superior to Lebrons. Per 100 possessions, Lebron scored more, grabbed more boards, dishes more assists
    When you don't allow your teammates to get into a rythm by holding onto the ball for the first 20 seconds of every shot clock, it isn't much of an accomplishment.

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson On LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Curry is one of the top 5 point guard defenders in the league

    Curry had a tough time defending Kyrie because of his MCL injury

    MCL Injuries mainly effect lateral movement and explosiveness, both crucial for perimeter defense

    A grade 1 mcl sprain wont affect your lateral quickness most players would have came back a game later, he took 2 weeks off and still played like s.hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan


    [COLOR="Red"]Curry is one of the top 5 point guard defenders in the league[/COLOR]

    Curry had a tough time defending Kyrie because of his MCL injury

    MCL Injuries mainly effect lateral movement and explosiveness, both crucial for perimeter defense

    from 2015 Finals, when Curry was healthy:



    "Curry was the primary defender on 21 isolation plays in the playoffs, and [COLOR="Blue"]he limited opponents to 1-of-14 shooting on those attempts[/COLOR] (7 percent).

    Additionally, Curry [COLOR="Blue"]forced a turnover on 19 percent of his plays[/COLOR] as an isolation defender, the fourth-best rate among guards this postseason.

    [COLOR="Blue"]Curry’s ability to guard one-on-one[/COLOR] allowed the Warriors’ wing defenders to double-team LeBron James effectively. When James was double-teamed, the Cavaliers scored 5 points on 2-of-18 shooting (11 percent).".


    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...defensive-team



    However, the Warriors only felt the need to double-team Lebron 18 times in the entire Finals!!... That's from Lebron's poor shooting - double-teaming is mainly to stop a guy who's jumpshot is hot, since defenders can converge on the paint for drives

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson On LeBron

    Comparing curry guarding f.ucking delladova to kyrie

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson On LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Comparing curry guarding f.ucking delladova to kyrie
    Curry was hurt - torn MCL

    However, even though an MCL tear is considered a major injury, he still didn't need to be to be carried off the court like when Lebron had cramps.

    Curry might be smaller in stature, but he's obviously tougher and more alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Curry was hurt - torn MCL

    However, even though an MCL tear is considered a major injury, he still didn't need to be to be carried off the court like when Lebron had cramps
    A grade 1 mcl sprain and torn mcl are not the same, If he actually tore his mcl he wouldn't be playing at all, While a grade 1 sprain is the lightweight tissue sprain, not even the highest degree of sprains. It's like equating getting a scrape from falling on concrete to getting stabbed. I can tell you never took an anatomy course while in school

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    A grade 1 mcl sprain wont affect your lateral quickness most players would have came back a game later, he took 2 weeks off and still played like s.hit.
    The time table for return of an MCL sprain is 2 to 4 weeks.

    (Keep in mind that healing timetable is for every day activity, nothing more strenuous than walking up one flight of stairs, NOT playing professional basketball)

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    .[QUOTE=3ball]from 2015 Finals, when Curry was healthy:



    [INDENT][I]"Curry was the primary defender on 21 isolation plays in the playoffs, and [COLOR="Blue"]he limited opponents to 1-of-14 shooting on those attempts[/COLOR] (7 percent).

    Additionally, Curry [COLOR="Blue"]forced a turnover on 19 percent of his plays[/COLOR] as an isolation defender, the fourth-best rate among guards this postseason.

    [COLOR="Blue"]Curry

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    The time table for return of an MCL sprain is 2 to 4 weeks.

    (Keep in mind that healing timetable is for every day activity, nothing more strenuous than walking up one flight of stairs, NOT playing professional basketball)
    Curry had no knee issues, he just played like shit.


    Before Game 7:

    People suffering with mcl tears dont do this.

    Game 3:


    Shit finals performers get this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Curry had no knee issues, he just played like shit.


    Before Game 7:

    People suffering with mcl tears dont do this.
    Doing a dunk in warm ups in no way indicates a player is 100% healthy. The main problem that is caused by an MCL injury is loss of lateral movement and explosiveness.

    The MCL is one of four ligaments connecting the femur bone to the tibia at the knee. It helps keep the knee stable as it moves from the outside to the inside.

    So the lateral movements are going to put pressure on the ligament.

    Athletic trainers refer to what’s called a “valgus” position — that’s when the knee is turned inward toward the center of the body, and the MCL stretches to keep the joint stable.

    Most people naturally stand in a slight valgus position, meaning they are putting a little pressure on their MCL without even trying. Playing basketball just adds to that stress, especially during quick lateral movements

    “That valgus position occurs pretty often in basketball,” said Meredith Petschauer, an exercise and sports science professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “because what you have to do in basketball all the time is plant your foot and turn in a different direction.”

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson On LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Doing a dunk in warm ups in no way indicates a player is 100% healthy. The main problem that is caused by an MCL injury is loss of lateral movement and explosiveness.
    The MC ligament attaches to the femur (thigh bone) and tibia (shinbone). Recovery Time: A minor, or grade 1, MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports.

    The results of an MRI on the right knee he injured in Sunday’s Game 4 win against the Houston Rockets showed only a Grade 1 MCL sprain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    The MC ligament attaches to the femur (thigh bone) and tibia (shinbone). Recovery Time: A minor, or grade 1, MCL tear can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports.

    The results of an MRI on the right knee he injured in Sunday’s Game 4 win against the Houston Rockets showed only a Grade 1 MCL sprain.


    As you can see there are 5 different degrees of severity in each Grade of MCL sprains

    It can be a mild Grade 1 sprain that heals in a few days

    Or it can be a severe Grade 1 sprain that takes 2 + weeks

    Not all injuries are the same, each injury is unique in it's own right

    That is why it is not possible to say that one person's Grade 1 MCL sprain exactly same as another's, and that they share similar healing timetables

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    Default Re: Oscar Robertson On LeBron

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan


    As you can see there are 5 different degrees of severity in each Grade of MCL sprains

    It can be a mild Grade 1 sprain that heals in a few days

    Or it can be a severe Grade 1 sprain that takes 2 + weeks

    Not all injuries are the same, each injury is unique in it's own right

    That is why it is not possible to say that one person's Grade 1 MCL sprain exactly same as another's, and that they share similar healing timetables
    A grade 1 sprain wouldn't take 2+ weeks, it would be upgraded to a grade 2+ sprain There's no such thing as a severe grade 1 sprain a severe grade 1 sprain is literally the same as saying a grade 3+ sprain

    You probably didn't even take an anatomy course in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    A grade 1 sprain wouldn't take 2+ weeks, it would be upgraded to a grade 2+ sprain There's no such thing as a severe grade 1 sprain a severe grade 1 sprain is literally the same as saying a grade 3+ sprain

    You probably didn't even take an anatomy course in high school.
    Wrong, there are 5 degrees of severity in each Grade of MCL sprain that is differentiated by the separation between the joints in millimeters



    Recovery
    Expected recovery for a Grade 1 MCL sprain usually occurs in 1-4 weeks depending on the severity of the injury.
    Sources: https://www.rcmclinic.com/patient-in...e-i-mcl-sprain

    Recovery
    Expected recovery for a Grade 2 or 3 MCL sprain usually occurs in 3 weeks to 3 months, depending on the severity of the injury, although lingering minor stiffness and soreness for six months is not uncommon.
    Sources: https://www.rcmclinic.com/patient-in...iii-mcl-sprain

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