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Old 04-27-2019, 10:34 AM   #31
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Default Re: "LeBron doesn't play defense" narrative destroyed

I remember watching the last time Porzingis played against Lebron. KP was killing them all game, until Lebron locked his ass up in the 4th. Imagine shutting down a 7'3 unicorn
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:22 PM   #32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl...ature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

Issa bloodbath

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Old 04-27-2019, 06:46 PM   #33
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Lebron certainly takes more plays off now, is a lot slower moving his feet, and isn’t great anywhere, not even as a team defender The metrics seem to overrate him too. None of that contradicts bron still arguably being a slightly above average defender. He still has a good b-ball iq. He’s not so lazy he takes every play off even though the highlights make it seem that way. He’s still 6-8 and isnt bumhunted by guards or big men usually which gives him useful versatility.

For example Lou definitely used screens to get Durant in an iso. He wouldn’t do that vs the lakers(tbf because kuzma and rondo are awful less that lebron is good).
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:50 PM   #34
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Lebron certainly takes more plays off now, is a lot slower moving his feet, and isn’t great anywhere, not even as a team defender The metrics seem to overrate him too. None of that contradicts bron still arguably being a slightly above average defender. He still has a good b-ball iq. He’s not so lazy he takes every play off even though the highlights make it seem that way. He’s still 6-8 and isnt bumhunted by guards or big men usually which gives him useful versatility.

For example Lou definitely used screens to get Durant in an iso. He wouldn’t do that vs the lakers(tbf because kuzma and rondo are awful less that lebron is good).

Give it up 3ball

Unless you're willing to concede that Jordan was severely overrated as a defender considering he has put up considerably less defensive statistics than LeBron? So which is it, and please choose wisely?

a) LeBron is "slightly above average" but that means Jordan is certainly below average

b) LeBron is an amazing defender, like Jordan, albeit LeBron is still a bit better
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:38 PM   #35
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Give it up 3ball

Unless you're willing to concede that Jordan was severely overrated as a defender considering he has put up considerably less defensive statistics than LeBron? So which is it, and please choose wisely?

a) LeBron is "slightly above average" but that means Jordan is certainly below average

b) LeBron is an amazing defender, like Jordan, albeit LeBron is still a bit better

There is no statistic alive that accurately measures defense. Give it up.
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:57 PM   #36
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This is actually a well informed video but of course the trolls will dismiss it. He isn't a top tier defender anymore but he also isn't as terrible as they want you to believe
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:36 AM   #37
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There is no statistic alive that accurately measures defense. Give it up.

This x 100000


I don't wanna see the DPM (or whatever the fvck these nerds use) of Lebron when he's guarding Michael Kidd Gilchrist or some other random eastern conference scrub and playing free safety.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:46 AM   #38
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This x 100000


I don't wanna see the DPM (or whatever the fvck these nerds use) of Lebron when he's guarding Michael Kidd Gilchrist or some other random eastern conference scrub and playing free safety.

So dont post facts?

Riiight

Imagine playing with Dennis Rodman for 3 years and Scottie Pippen for nearly your entire career and you have a worse defensive rating than LeBron. Who were LeBron's defensive stoppers again?
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:52 AM   #39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsxl...ature=youtu.be

By every metric LeBron still ranks at the top of the league defensively and has so for the past decade

You morons want to cherrypick a couple of possessions and create this stupid narrative that LeBron is some garbage defender. It is bs

Its crazy LeBron has become the most underrated defender in NBA history

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Old 05-16-2019, 10:58 AM   #40
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Picture this “narrative “ even existing with MJ
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:03 AM   #41
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Picture this “narrative “ even existing with MJ
MJ played in an era where superstars didn't get viewed under a microscope

All of MJs flaws and bad performances were overlooked
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:05 AM   #42
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MJ played in an era where superstars didn't get viewed under a microscope

Bitch, please. There may have been no social media back then, but there was 24-hour sports and news. And people writing "tell-all" books, like "The Jordan Rules" and "Michael & Me".

So just stop, baby boi.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:13 AM   #43
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Bitch, please. There may have been no social media back then, but there was 24-hour sports and news. And people writing "tell-all" books, like "The Jordan Rules" and "Michael & Me".

So just stop, baby boi.



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Old 05-16-2019, 12:49 PM   #44
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lebron defensive rating better than KD's.. KD is in his prime.. LEBRON GOATING WITH 56 K MINUTES ON THEM LEGS..

Def one of the greatest defenders ever.. Got RObbed FOR THAT DPOY the year GASOL won it..
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:51 PM   #45
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lebron defensive rating better than KD's.. KD is in his prime.. LEBRON GOATING WITH 56 K MINUTES ON THEM LEGS..

Def one of the greatest defenders ever.. Got RObbed FOR THAT DPOY the year GASOL won it..



Do you have any idea how this is calculated or how it translates to true on court defensive impact? Or do you just spew it blindly?
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