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Old 02-17-2019, 12:34 PM   #1
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Default comparing kobe and lebrons rings to others throughout history

kobe:

2000 = pippen 1993 style ring (defense+playmaking+20ppg+)

2001 = kareem 1980 style ring (robbed of the mvp)

2002 = kyrie 2016 style ring (one of the greatest co leaders ever)

2009 = hakeem 1994 style ring (ultimate league dog carrying scrubs)

2010 = jordan 1996 style ring (tough defensive grind it out finals as lead dog)




lebron:

2012 = 2018 Durant style ring worth absolutely nothing

2013 = 2017 curry style ring. choking under pressure/bailed out by teammate on a superteam

2016 = Russian 1972 style championship filled with controversy/collusion/manipulation from league officials/referees to rob a muuuuuch better team
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:36 PM   #2
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:37 PM   #4
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context matters


its the formula used to separate horrys 7 from mjs 6


use your brain little man
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:37 PM   #5
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:38 PM   #6
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context matters


its the formula used to separate horrys 7 from mjs 6


use your brain little man
actually I'm very reasonable. nor am I little - by any measure mind you ;)


lebron is easily top 2-5. kobe is solidly top 7-12.


they're not in the same class of player and history will recognize that in hindsight.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:39 PM   #7
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btw I agree 100% that context matters so you are right about that kenny-boy
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:40 PM   #8
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actually I'm very reasonable. nor am I little - by any measure mind you ;)


lebron is easily top 2-5. kobe is solidly top 7-12.


they're not in the same class of player and history will recognize that in hindsight.


if you have to say youre not little.. youre little

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Old 02-17-2019, 12:43 PM   #9
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gasol as lead dog with dwight as his sidekick got swept by an older tim duncan


hes 0-16 as leader


hes the 5th lowest ranked sidekick in title history


do you realize these facts?

he averaged 18ppg.. lebron won with a guy averaging 30 and hitting the title winning shot


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if you have to say youre not little.. youre little

actually if your reading comprehension was beyond that of a third grader you'd realize that you were the one that accused me of being little - and I factually refuted that using evidence from the women in your life.



axe around.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:44 PM   #11
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Kobe missed the playoffs
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:46 PM   #12
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actually if your reading comprehension was beyond that of a third grader you'd realize that you were the one that accused me of being little - and I factually refuted that using evidence from the women in your life.



axe around.



are you still on that little shit

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are you still on that little shit

well that was the only part that you responded to so quite frankly you were the one "still on that little shit"

kenny I appreciate the chutzpah incessantly defending your guy and trying to rewrite reality hopefully you can convince some of the chumps on this board. keep at it. kobe will still be borderline top 10 for the next 20 years or so guaranteed.
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gasol as lead dog with dwight as his sidekick got swept by an older tim duncan


hes 0-16 as leader


hes the 5th lowest ranked sidekick in title history


do you realize these facts?

he averaged 18ppg.. lebron won with a guy averaging 30 and hitting the title winning shot


Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship



Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?






Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:32 PM   #15
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2000 - 2015 Klay important, but you could take other dudes instead.

2001 and 2002 Pippen/Kyrie mix.

2009 is Dirk with a weaker finals opp.

2010 and 96 mj is fitting.
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